# What considerations has CCP made for PvE after Resist nerf? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 9, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380 "2020-04-09T21:14:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/276 "2020-05-14T10:57:07Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > **half the point** of a patch like this is to shake up the meta in terms of fits. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > And why can’t people realize that shaking for the sake of shaking is a bad thing ? Andersen, dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Deirdre\_Locke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deirdre_locke/32/193786_2.png) [@Deirdre\_Locke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deirdre_Locke)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/277 "2020-05-14T12:06:09Z")
I wonder if CCP has **increased** resists “just to shaken things up” people would have complained so much. Weird how that goes. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/278 "2020-05-14T12:40:40Z")
I can still do lvl 4 missions in my battle orca. I see very little difference. Maybe they made the change to make people a little more engaged with what they are doing ? Managing your shield or armor to make it through the mission is a little more exciting than sleepwalking your way through it. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/279 "2020-05-14T12:47:13Z")
Every game brings changes every once in a while that force us to change the way we fight or what we fit on our ships. If it’s a change that fundamentally negatively impacts the game then possibly it will be rethought and rebalanced. (Yes I’m aware this is CCP we are talking about) Adapt and overcome ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/280 "2020-05-14T13:04:01Z")
> [@Zombie\_Ellecon](#): > > Adapt and overcome And then what ? Then nothing will have changed. So the effect was just to annoy some people. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro\_s\_shadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zorro_s_shadow/32/189453_2.png) [@Zorro\_s\_shadow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zorro_s_shadow)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/281 "2020-05-14T13:07:02Z")
I take it as a sarcasm, since there are no super high rewards, especially for a new, few months old player, since those players are lacking the skill to finish these missions in a reasonable time. If it wasn’t, then you are just being an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro\_s\_shadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zorro_s_shadow/32/189453_2.png) [@Zorro\_s\_shadow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zorro_s_shadow)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/282 "2020-05-14T13:10:42Z")
No, it only shakes up wallets, not fits. You’ll be using the same for with more blue or with more expensive blue in our. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/283 "2020-05-14T13:15:35Z")
So instead of adapting to changes we must do what? Chest beat on the forums until they change it back? Most people I’ve spoken to have only had to make small changes to how they fit or style of fighting. Most people that have complained are the ones that semi afk their way through missions and now they can’t, they need to be focused on eve. Some have found it more difficult but still can comfortably without risking losing a ship. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/284 "2020-05-14T14:45:20Z")
> [@Zombie\_Ellecon](#): > > So instead of adapting to changes we must do what? Chest beat on the forums until they change it back? Unrelated. Of course you must adapt to changes. It’s a huge nerf for some parts of PVE, of course people will complain. I don’t say what you must or not do. What I say is : your argument that there is no reason to complain is complete BS. > [@Zombie\_Ellecon](#): > > Most people that have complained are the ones that semi afk their way through missions and now they can’t, they need to be focused on eve. {citation needed} Also that “semi AFK” is complete BS. Your hands are ATK but your head is in another room ? ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/285 "2020-05-14T14:55:10Z")
The semi afk crowd. The ones that watch TV or movies or alt tabbed doing other computer related stuff. Now they have to be more focused on the game. The ones that work on one computer while eve is running on another ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/286 "2020-05-14T15:16:07Z")
> [@Zombie\_Ellecon](#): > > The semi afk crowd. The ones that watch TV or movies or alt tabbed doing other computer related stuff. Those don’t exist. If they are alt tabbed to watch netflix, then they are ATK by definition. Also you don’t need two computers, two screens is much better. Please stop making BS definitions to prove your point. It just makes your point BS. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/287 "2020-05-14T15:28:38Z")
How about instead of just saying “BS” why don’t you make a valid reason as to why I’m wrong. You can try pick at what I say all you like. Ok maybe my terminology is incorrect by saying they are afk or semi afk. But they sure ain’t focusing on eve while they are running missions or mining ect ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/288 "2020-05-14T15:29:36Z")
Do I need to point out all the different ways there are to run multiple eve accounts? Kinda thought it was obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/289 "2020-05-14T15:48:03Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Those don’t exist. If they are alt tabbed to watch netflix, then they are ATK by definition. Jesus wept. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/290 "2020-05-14T16:21:04Z")
> [@Zombie\_Ellecon](#): > > How about instead of just saying “BS” why don’t you make a valid reason as to why I’m wrong. You can try pick at what I say all you like. How about instead of claiming you are right, you prove me that what wrote actually makes sense ? Sure term is incorrect. If you remove that incorrect terms, there remains nothing, so it completely invalidates your point. > [@Zombie\_Ellecon](#): > > But they sure ain’t focusing on eve while they are running missions WHO ? You claim that people who said this nerf hurt them were the people who were making missions in a relaxed mode. That’s complete BS. People who want to do it in a relaxed mode use sniper fits, with MJD they don’t rely on tank. MJD, AB, RAH, LAR, targeting rig, your domnix can MJD , drop sentries, and then it’s good. The people who were the most hurt by this nerf are the people who rely on resist to tank, so those who don’t range tank nor speed tank. So brawler fits. > [@Zombie\_Ellecon](#): > > or mining ect Unrelated. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/291 "2020-05-14T16:28:53Z")
i being losing a lot , yesterday i died like 10 times , that being said topics like that are the perfect moment to show one FACT ![Captura de Tela 2020-05-14 às 13.25.33](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/8/a879123fe21aa7b03781fe670e5bf9980f4b04fd.jpeg) ![Captura de Tela 2020-05-14 às 13.26.09](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/d/cd6e4585169530c7cf216c3f35921907a5e27b3b.png) Thats + - 1.4 BILION isk worth of LP , i did it in a t1 frigate that cost 10 million isk fitted and requires very low skill to run ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/292 "2020-05-14T19:05:13Z")
I never claimed I was right. Just wanted someone with a genuine reason as to how they cannot do now what they once did before this change. I don’t see any yet in here Low skill is not a valid reason Being an Alfa is not a valid reason ---
**Author:** ![Ravasta\_Helugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravasta_helugo/32/202903_2.png) [@Ravasta\_Helugo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravasta_Helugo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/293 "2020-05-14T19:16:40Z")
I really like the idea of giving Marauders tier 2 resists (Same as T3 cruisers and destroyers). ---
**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/294 "2020-05-14T19:18:28Z")
> [@Marauder rebalance in light of Surgical Strike](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/marauder-rebalance-in-light-of-surgical-strike/236065): > > Marauders need some love. They are tanky, have okay but not great DPS, and when set in one spot, blinged and bastioned, can fight off many times their number of t1 hulls with t2/meta fits, mostly in lower ship classes. However, they rely extremely heavily on their resists, and usually on the high end resist modules most effected (in absolute terms) by the resistance module nerf. Due to this, and the fact that they missed out on the buffer bonus applied to their closest competitors in pirate/fac… ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/295 "2020-05-14T19:25:30Z")
Yes ships like that take alot of time and isk to be able to fly effectively it’s a shame they got hit by the change but T1 battleships got a buff. Not sure what that’s about unless it’s to cater to the Alfa crowd. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=15)