# What considerations has CCP made for PvE after Resist nerf? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 9, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380 "2020-04-09T21:14:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Ivanka\_Trumptard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivanka_trumptard/32/204577_2.png) [@Ivanka\_Trumptard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivanka_Trumptard)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/296 "2020-05-14T19:40:53Z")
other than the fact you are supporting slaving amarr scum what are you showing here? FW mission lp or was this LP from complexes etc i thought they killed farming ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/297 "2020-05-14T19:43:21Z")
> [@Ivanka\_Trumptard](#): > > i thought they killed farming Farming is still alive and kicking, afk farming not so much; and good riddance to it. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/298 "2020-05-14T19:47:59Z")
> [@Ivanka\_Trumptard](#): > > other than the fact you are supporting slaving amarr scum what are you showing here? FW mission lp or was this LP from complexes etc > > i thought they killed farming this is complex lp ., in a good day wen amarr is LV 2 we make like 1000 per minute equivalent to 60 milion isk per hour inside a complex its not great but is pretty good since the gist of the thing is to do 1x1 pvp btw NERF MISSION MOARRRRRR edit: we just enslave minmatar and they are not people ,don’t have feelings or feel any pain , its a science proven fact edit2: for those who don’t know fw have 2 kinds of LP. the legit lp from complexes , PLEXES , as we cal them, and the SCUM of the earth LP from missions , any people that do missions in low sec is a terrible person worst than hitler , the missions got a very delicate nerf but they need to be nerfed a LOT more , because the LP is made for real FW people involved in pvp and capturing systems for their empires , not for care bears not so long ago amarr and minmatar made a truce to protest against mission runners, but after the nerf business are normal , but i think i can speak for any low sec player wen i say the nerf to missions needs to be bigger ---
**Author:** ![Ivanka\_Trumptard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivanka_trumptard/32/204577_2.png) [@Ivanka\_Trumptard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivanka_Trumptard)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/299 "2020-05-14T20:41:43Z")
i guess it will be interesting then when L4 missions are moved to lowsec too in the 3rd quadrant release. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/300 "2020-05-14T20:50:36Z")
> [@Ivanka\_Trumptard](#): > > i guess it will be interesting then when L4 missions are moved to lowsec too in the 3rd quadrant release. there is no problem the problem with FW missions is they historically gave A LOT of LP and can be chained so the care bears made tons devaluing the earnings from those who really participate in fw taking plexes and systems ---
**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/301 "2020-05-14T20:53:27Z")
They already exist there. Do you mean _only_ exist in lowsec? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/302 "2020-05-14T20:56:28Z")
> [@James\_Baboli](#): > > They already exist there. > > Do you mean _only_ exist in lowsec? low sec agent mission are different they usually involve killing one or few targets , can be done in impossible to catch t3 destroyers and can be chained to obtain TONS of LP in little time ---
**Author:** ![Ivanka\_Trumptard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivanka_trumptard/32/204577_2.png) [@Ivanka\_Trumptard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivanka_Trumptard)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/303 "2020-05-15T01:08:40Z")
> [@James\_Baboli](#): > > They already exist there. > > Do you mean _only_ exist in lowsec?? Yes part of risk vs reward balance of Hilmar. No easy bear farm in high sec must take risk for big reward. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/304 "2020-05-15T01:25:21Z")
Source? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/305 "2020-05-15T12:54:20Z")
none. He is just trolling you. ---
**Author:** ![Rashche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rashche/32/205271_2.png) [@Rashche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rashche)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/306 "2020-05-15T17:16:28Z")
I didn’t even know they implemented this until a few minutes ago when i noticed some discrepency between pyfa and in-game. I am seriously pissed off now. 8 days ago the same fit that I have been using to run countless T4 abyssal sites blew up for no reason and now I know why…it literally wiped me off the map. 3B ISK gone from a patch that I didn’t even know about or expect. Im about to auction off my character and send ccp a big middle finger note. Just explain to me now how anyone is supposed to run a T4 or T5 filament? They already required max max DED resist mods, and lvl 5 skills and there really isnt any substitute. There is nothing you can do toi improve the fit to makje it good enough anymore. Also wheres my money you CCP idiots? You owe me (another) 3B ISK. Seriously…their whole goal was to destroy more assets so people will be forced to buy more ISK so they can continue to invest maybe 1% of that into development and make the execs richer than you can imagine. Thats all this game is about lately. Destroy assets, take in more cash to replace them. Why is it that whenever there is a big suicide gank lately, the cargo is always destroyed? I gurantee it is not random…detroying in-game ISK makes CCP $$$'s. Period. They’re going to lose all their players now though. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/307 "2020-05-15T17:30:49Z")
> [@Rashche](#): > > They’re going to lose all their players now though. Citation needed… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/308 "2020-05-15T18:01:30Z")
> [@Rashche](#): > > They’re going to lose all their players now though. People have been saying this in response to pretty much everything that CCP have done since 2003. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/309 "2020-05-15T18:36:38Z")
> [@Rashche](#): > > 3B ISK gone from a patch that I didn’t even know about or expect. And whose fault is that? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/310 "2020-05-15T21:17:23Z")
> [@Rashche](#): > > I am seriously pissed off now. 8 days ago the same fit that I have been using to run countless T4 abyssal sites blew up for no reason and now I know why… **it literally wiped me off the map**. Sounds like you ignored the basic rule of EVE: don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose. Perhaps you should try not being bad at EVE next time? > a patch that I didn’t even know about Sounds like you should pay attention to the news and patch notes? It’s not like they kept this a secret. > detroying in-game ISK makes CCP $$$'s Only if you’re bad at EVE (or lazy IRL) and can’t make ISK. In reality competent players will continue to make ISK even when their stuff is destroyed, and CCP is well aware that people have to keep making ISK or nobody has ISK to buy PLEX with and therefore nobody buys PLEX anymore. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/311 "2020-05-15T21:49:39Z")
> [@James\_Baboli](#): > > Source? dont know if you want the source for FW missions very outdated people use t3 destroyers not bombers nowadays [https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Faction\_warfare\_missions](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Faction_warfare_missions) edit: btw they are the source , ba dum tsss , of all evil ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/312 "2020-05-16T00:43:59Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > but i think i can speak for any low sec player wen i say the nerf to missions needs to be bigger meh, you are overstating how much missions make. It is only fw missions that are over the top - they still could use another 15% nerf in lp payout - after that the situation should stabilize itself (once isk/h drops to 300M/h at T5 things are fine - the problem was with 1B+/h at T4) ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/313 "2020-05-16T00:45:12Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > low sec agent mission are different Lol, they are not that different. They are actually the same as highsec missions. What you are talking about are faction warfare missions. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/314 "2020-05-16T00:46:40Z")
ofc im talking about fw mission ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/315 "2020-05-16T00:50:21Z")
> [@Rashche](#): > > I didn’t even know they implemented this until a few minutes ago when i noticed some discrepency between pyfa and in-game. I am seriously pissed off now. 8 days ago the same fit that I have been using to run countless T4 abyssal sites blew up for no reason and now I know why… This change to resists has been out for almost a month. You have only yourself to blame if you get bitten by changes because you didn’t check patch notes. > [@Rashche](#): > > Just explain to me now how anyone is supposed to run a T4 or T5 filament Don’t ask me. I still run T3s in my T2 fitted rlml caracal w/o any issue. Maybe the problem is with you not knowing how to fly. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > very outdated people use t3 destroyers not bombers nowadays I don’t know about t3ds for L4 missions but t3cs with covop configuration run them w/o any issue … and basically no risk. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > ofc im talking about fw mission Except that you didn’t specify faction missions - you said low sec agents. That is far more broad than fw missions. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=16)