# What considerations has CCP made for PvE after Resist nerf? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 9, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380 "2020-04-09T21:14:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/376 "2020-05-20T22:51:04Z")
i dont do abyssal , my friend who sits in a big pile of money do , tier 5 , and i own him 3 bil so i know its true , that guy on youtube is pretty good …i like to promote him , because one day i really like to try the abyss pvp and he had a lot of content about it ---
**Author:** ![Rashche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rashche/32/205271_2.png) [@Rashche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rashche)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/377 "2020-05-20T23:07:28Z")
So, more unqualified opinions…thanks. I’m sure your friend lost his ships if hes run any recently. I don’t think people understand the situation here and yet keep speculating that i am wrong about what I have witnessed first hand. It doesn’t matter what ship you chose, any fit that was capable of running a lvl 4 or L5 filament, had to be built out specific to that filament type and had to have literally just about every slot jammed full of A rated deadspace modules with all lvl 5 skills to JUST BARELY get through them. Explain to me how you are supposed to get through one now with the huge resist nerf?? You’re still thinking in traditional terms where you can just build an more blingy ship. What happens when you already have the ship built as tough and with as much DPS and tank as possible and it is not enough anymore? btw, I was completely capable of L5, but the additional mats from L5 wasnt much and the chance of getting popped was about 5X greater My fit made it through exactly 1 filament without any issue, but as soon as I got a big spawn of sparks (EM damage dealers) the tank just couldn’t hold up anymore. So just trade some DPS for tank right? Well then the timer runs out and you are destroyed. Filaments are no joke and I enjoyed them because they were the hardest content in the game…but now the high tier are pretty much impossible to even break even on. You will see, the cost of trig mats is going to go through the roof until they fix them. I have a hold full of trig ships and modules I manufactured up from the mats from the sites. I’ll wait to sell them until there are no more on the market. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/378 "2020-05-20T23:13:53Z")
hey, not trying to pick a fight with you about it , if you take it so serious , ok you are the authority in the subject , i just like to do plexes in low , good god edit: btw i asked for screens from my friend so you see no bs ![unknown](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/8/38b3aa1481419953907b13714d551552ed6528e0.png) ![unknown-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/4/94882cecfd5d4682ed9f925c79716803e10c0ca0.png) ![unknown-2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/a/1abfb0936708ea4723f7d7fde16caac3c86b0afe.png) ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/379 "2020-05-21T00:51:52Z")
> [@Rashche](#): > > stop pretending like you know anything about me. I know all I need from your posts here. > and btw…its not harder…its likely impossible. If this is the case CCP will very likely see a 0% completion rate and adjust the difficulty. However, what I suspect will be the case is that they will be possible but difficult, and maybe you won’t be good enough to be one of the people who can beat them. > Oh they also removed the ability to test filaments on the PTR. Boo hoo, you don’t get risk-free testing to make sure you can effortlessly farm something before you attempt to do it for real. You’ll just have to risk real ships to see if you’re good enough to beat the most challenging PvE content. > My fit made it through exactly 1 filament without any issue Wait, I thought they were impossible? And here you are saying that it’s possible to beat them. Looks like my initial impression was exactly correct, you’re just salty that your effortless farming has turned into an actual challenge. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/380 "2020-05-21T02:48:52Z")
> [@Rashche](#): > > What makes you think I need a teacher? I mean really. I have run almost 100 filaments. You can’t do them after the resistance nerf. Go ahead and make up that fit and try it yourself. I friking dare you. I can and have and I didn’t change my fit at all… That is T5 I am may add. ---
**Author:** ![Cap\_James\_Tkirk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cap_james_tkirk/32/264777_2.png) [@Cap\_James\_Tkirk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cap_James_Tkirk)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/381 "2020-05-21T03:30:27Z")
They have made exactly 0 consideration, move along nublets. ---
**Author:** ![Rominor\_Anthar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rominor_anthar/32/327453_2.png) [@Rominor\_Anthar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rominor_Anthar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/382 "2020-05-21T22:32:16Z")
Another small nerf to deadspace resistance modules (and buff to some) seems underway. at least from this page [http://www.hoboleaks.space/Singularity\_1719716-1724994](http://www.hoboleaks.space/Singularity_1719716-1724994) I believe CCP has NO considerations on PvE, just like not a single word after the nerf to ECM long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/383 "2020-05-21T22:50:44Z")
This is the Tiericide for armor hardeners. Appears the Invading Precursers (Raznaborg) are taking a big hit, should be welcome news for many PvE and industry players. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/384 "2020-05-21T22:51:11Z")
It’s almost like they are making sure to follow up on balance like they said… since as you noted some are buffed also. Why would there be word on ECM. It’s working as intended. ---
**Author:** ![Rominor\_Anthar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rominor_anthar/32/327453_2.png) [@Rominor\_Anthar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rominor_Anthar)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/385 "2020-05-22T00:51:02Z")
So far there is no change or even discussion to PVE contents where the resistance nerf is mostly concerned. The buff mainly applies to previously under-powered modules, such as angel modules, which provides lower resistance than guristas ones. For ECM, at least I know several ECM ships that were able to solo (and designed to solo) receive no adjustment after that. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/386 "2020-05-22T01:14:14Z")
> [@Rominor\_Anthar](#): > > So far there is no change or even discussion to PVE contents where the resistance nerf is mostly concerned. What discussion or changes do you need? PvE has been way too easy for way too long. Either overcome the challenge or go back to WoW, CCP is not going to put the game back to easy mode just because you can’t AFK farm the most profitable content. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/387 "2020-05-22T01:15:57Z")
> [@Rominor\_Anthar](#): > > So far there is no change or even discussion to PVE contents where the resistance nerf is mostly concerned Nor should there be yet. CCP should not be making changes on the first few days of data, because that will be full of people who don’t read patch notes or pay attention suddenly having issues. To make a safe change that won’t open an insane isk faucet CCP need to wait a while and see how things actually adjust and if any content has real issues. Since I’m hearing people are still running T5 Abyss I suspect all content will remain doable. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/388 "2020-05-22T06:08:19Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > What discussion or changes do you need? PvE has been way too easy for way too long. {citation needed} ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/389 "2020-05-22T06:09:13Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > {citation needed} The fact level 5 abyss guides existed and worked. Along with every other PvE. This is supposedly the hardest PvE content in the game, yet people can follow literal cookie cutter guides on how to do it and succeed. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/394 "2020-05-22T06:38:09Z")
Removed some off topic posts. Keep it on topic. Final warning. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/395 "2020-05-22T06:41:39Z")
What? I was not off topic, FFS! ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/396 "2020-05-22T06:42:37Z")
> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#): > > Removed some off topic posts. Keep it on topic. Final warning. An literally you keep the posts that are just off topic BS, like the one that claims that “PVE is too easy” without any proof. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/397 "2020-05-22T06:48:22Z")
Replies also get clipped when an off topic/spam/etc post gets taken out. If it was on topic just repost it. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/398 "2020-05-22T06:50:45Z")
> [@Rashche](#): > > What makes you think I need a teacher? Because: > [@Rashche](#): > > You can’t do them after the resistance nerf. and > [@Rashche](#): > > its likely impossible And the homerun: > [@Rashche](#): > > Explain to me how you are supposed to get through one now * * * > [@Rashche](#): > > CCP are morons plain and simple. You’re just a dumbfuck. Lear to play the game FFS! > [@Rashche](#): > > So, more unqualified opinions You know yourself too well. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > > > What discussion or changes do you need? PvE has been way too easy for way too long. > > {citation needed} No, it is not needed. Your autism shows again. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/399 "2020-05-22T06:51:46Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > If it was on topic just repost it. With a mod telling final warning that is quite a risk one has to take. Ah, ■■■■ it. See previous post. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=20)