# What considerations has CCP made for PvE after Resist nerf? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 9, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380 "2020-04-09T21:14:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/132 "2020-04-11T21:13:59Z")
Your previous post needs to be on eve wiki, it is very useful. Also do we know what is R0 yet or is that changing also? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/133 "2020-04-11T21:15:38Z")
So the alvus ruler suggests the guy’s doing level4’s in a meta fit drake. The guy might also have low skills as well. Yeah I’m calling that stupid. You don’t design the winter Olympics around people trying to ski up-hill. His fit looks like it would sleep through level3’s though. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/134 "2020-04-11T21:16:04Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > do we know what is R0 yet or is that changing also? As I say there, R0 is the base resist provided by the ship itself, the one you see with no mods fitted. Not affected by the changes. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/135 "2020-04-11T21:16:45Z")
Yes, so this is not changing only the fittings are? ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/136 "2020-04-11T21:18:58Z")
Right. I added a comment on that to my previous reply while you were writing yours. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/137 "2020-04-11T21:24:27Z")
The time in which you up in to that, really needs a thread on it’s own too. / Okay I will be the idiot in the room. P2 and R2 is still unknown until the 15th or does P2 only apply when the 2nd resist module is fitted (that module we know that will be changed?) ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/138 "2020-04-11T22:07:00Z")
Not sure I understand the question. That’s a generic formula for the case where you may have multiple resist mods affecting the same damage type. If you only have 1 resist mod affecting the damage type you’re considering, you only need to compute what will happen to that one, there is no R2 in that case… ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/139 "2020-04-11T22:09:21Z")
Yeah, basically that is what I meant, if only one resist mod was used (that we know will be changed) then we don’t need P2. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/140 "2020-04-11T22:36:38Z")
> [@Thayden\_Reid\_Nordic](#): > > Hell, the increased difficulty of Lvl 4 missions, a mainstay of income for many players (particularly newbies), Newbies don’t run L4 missions… and they shouldn’t. W/o proper support skills they will end up with far worse isk than running L3 missions. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/141 "2020-04-11T22:39:59Z")
> [@Theodyval\_Kinging1](#): > > For a shield tanked ship, I would say Enemies Abound 1 and Smash the Supplier just became a lot harder. Pity they’re about the most lucrative ones. Meh, minmatar shield tank will hold just fine for Smash the Supplier… and if it means that I have to swap to armor I will just replace my loki with typhoon, praxis or paladin. ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/142 "2020-04-11T22:46:26Z")
> [@Surgical Strike Update Follow-up](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061): > > Hello capuleers! Yesterday we posted a news item covering the [Surgical Strike update](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q8f2l8/surgical-strike-coming-15-april) coming on April 15th. Today, we would like to address feedback and layout plans for follow-up shortly after the release. Battleship Scan Resolution increase Many of you have asked for this increase to be passed along to tech II Battleships (Marauders and Black Ops) and we are pleased to say that we agree and will be extending this buff to those classes as well. Structure Guided Bombs These were missed in th… Also they pre-buffed the mods on Sisi before the nerf due to tiericide, so it isn’t even a 20% nerf in effectiveness. People reliant on X-Types better find a new answer… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/144 "2020-04-13T02:42:23Z")
Removed some off topic posts. ---
**Author:** ![Mara\_Pahrdi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mara_pahrdi/32/277369_2.png) [@Mara\_Pahrdi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mara_Pahrdi)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/145 "2020-04-13T08:37:52Z")
> [@Thayden\_Reid\_Nordic](#): > > Let me know what you think. Most likely CCP had a look into it and decided, it doesn’t matter much. ---
**Author:** ![Malango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malango/32/386623_2.png) [@Malango](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malango)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/146 "2020-04-13T12:57:04Z")
No more burner missions or abyssals for me then. Might be time to quit. I like PVP but it’s PVE that brings me back. ---
**Author:** ![SoldMyChar\_ForISK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/soldmychar_forisk/32/333890_2.png) [@SoldMyChar\_ForISK](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SoldMyChar_ForISK)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/148 "2020-04-14T00:18:45Z")
Dont forget this is coming in 3 waves first one is 20% against current numbers = new\_resists second wave in 2 months is another 20% reduction against new\_resists = newer\_resists third wave sometime after that but not scheduled yet would be 20% against newer\_resists to make the final\_resists numbers. This had great buy in from the community and overall the balancing should not impact as much as people think unless your botting. TLDR; PVE will be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/149 "2020-04-14T00:22:09Z")
> [@SoldMyChar\_ForISK](#): > > first one is 20% against current numbers = new\_resists > second wave in 2 months is another 20% reduction against new\_resists = newer\_resists > third wave sometime after that but not scheduled yet would be 20% against newer\_resists to make the final\_resists numbers. Source for the second and third waves? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/150 "2020-04-14T00:29:01Z")
I’m sorry brother but do you have a link to an Official source stating that? Also what community are you talking about? I definitely didn’t see any threads whatsoever demanding that ship resistance stats be nerfed like that. One thing is for sure, it doesn’t matter to bots if those nerfs are done or not. Now if what you say is actually true then PvE WILL NOT BE FINE. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/151 "2020-04-14T00:52:15Z")
Yeah, dropping to 51.2% of previous resist numbers from modules would NUKE everything except raw HP/s tanks and any t1 hull without a resist bonus or damage sufficient to run a polarized blitz fit for PVE and make most PVE content massively more difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/152 "2020-04-14T01:14:25Z")
Don’t need resists when you speed tank on a large AB in a battle cruiser. - scurries out of the room… . ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/153 "2020-04-14T01:38:22Z")
Except that most high end PvE content includes NPC Ewar effects such as web / stasis, warp scram, etc [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=8)