# What considerations has CCP made for PvE after Resist nerf? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 9, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380 "2020-04-09T21:14:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/154 "2020-04-14T01:43:10Z")
Shouldn’t this post be in Fiction Portal?.. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/155 "2020-04-14T04:47:46Z")
How much longer before the change goes live? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/156 "2020-04-14T05:00:24Z")
A little less than 30\* hours from now. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/157 "2020-04-14T05:43:34Z")
> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#): > > Don’t need resists when you speed tank on a large AB in a battle cruiser. > > - scurries out of the room… . Speed tanking and battlecruiser is the definition of an oxymoron. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/158 "2020-04-14T05:44:37Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > A little less than 30\* hours from now. Try 5 hours 1100 server, its 0544 as I type this. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/159 "2020-04-14T05:54:11Z")
> [@Onictus](#): > > Try 5 hour That would make it the 14th of April, not 15th, as it says in the devblog: [Surgical Strike – Coming 15 April | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q8f2l8/surgical-strike-coming-15-april) ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/160 "2020-04-14T05:57:49Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > That would make it the 14th of April, not 15th, as it says in the devblog: [https://www.eveonline.com/article/q8f2l8/surgical-strike-coming-15-april](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q8f2l8/surgical-strike-coming-15-april) Since when does CCP ever patch on Weds? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/161 "2020-04-14T06:08:11Z")
I don’t know, but they said the 15th on their blog, so that’s what I’m going off of. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/162 "2020-04-14T07:35:17Z")
> [@Onictus](#): > > > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > > > A little less than 30\* hours from now. > > Try 5 hours 1100 server, its 0544 as I type this. Agreed, it’ll happen with Downtime. Currently the in-game date shows the 14th, after Downtime it’ll be the 15th. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/163 "2020-04-14T08:16:05Z")
Okay so The Battlecruiser is looking like it is a 5th wheel here in the mission department. Speed too slow and not enough (95% used up just to fit a 500mwd) /cap to fit to act as a speed tank even though if it could be done then that is one hell of a speed cruiser For pve missions, warp in drop a MTU / align to a clear spot then jump 100km then use the AB to orbit at a safer distance where the % of being hit is mitigated etc. What was the phase above “oxymoron”. hmm… how about a Med Micro Jump Drive + 100 AB? ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/164 "2020-04-14T08:20:12Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > For pve missions, warp in drop a MTU / align to a clear spot then jump 100km then use the AB to orbit at a safer distance where the % of being hit is mitigated etc. Ok so how many CBCs have a 100km engagement range? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/165 "2020-04-14T08:48:46Z")
> [@Onictus](#): > > Ok so how many CBCs have a 100km engagement range? I am guessing you mean the Tornado / Talos / Naga / Oracle being the selection for shooting at 100km range being combat battle cruisers and no command burst modules used? ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/166 "2020-04-14T08:56:13Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > I am guessing you mean the Tornado / Talos / Naga / Oracle being the selection for shooting at 100km range being combat battle cruisers and no command burst modules used? Thise are not CBCs, those are ATTACK battlecruisers, and the one that could was nerfed WAY WAY back in like 2013. …anything that can shoot back dies quickly to them. > **[Naga | kimuon oo | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/83006261/)** > > kimuon oo (Guardians of Parallel World) lost their Naga in RQOO-U (The Kalevala Expanse). Final Blow by Onictus (SniggWaffe) flying solo in a Revelation. Total Value: 113,232,344.17 ISK These guys thought they could be cheeky…they vanished about 4 seconds after that shot. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/167 "2020-04-14T09:14:00Z")
CBC = Command and ABC = Attack I should have known this. Unless the mission calls for smaller than battleships I think I will stick to the Battleship. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/168 "2020-04-14T09:25:29Z")
Combat Battlecruiser to be fair. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/169 "2020-04-14T10:10:58Z")
> [@Onictus](#): > > Combat Battlecruiser to be fair. Command or Combat, makes it interesting to see which turns up. The CBC will help the most! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/170 "2020-04-14T11:32:37Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Agreed, it’ll happen with Downtime. > > Currently the in-game date shows the 14th, after Downtime it’ll be the 15th. Well I stand corrected. Patch hasn’t landed yet. ---
**Author:** ![Th0rG0d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/th0rg0d/32/181225_2.png) [@Th0rG0d](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Th0rG0d)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/171 "2020-04-14T15:02:05Z")
So take out the sensor booster and fit a cap battery. Done. Solved. Now you won’t have to warp out to recoup cap because of the increase rep demand due to lower resists. Your welcome. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/172 "2020-04-14T16:43:15Z")
They did it before Resist nerf - they introduced Triglavian ships set. If CCP put on a single ship all three meta bonuses like: high-dps, neut and remote repairing, than Resist nerf is just fluf-words. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380/173 "2020-04-14T16:51:44Z")
Remote rep only works if you’re in a fleet with other using them too. But yes Nester spider fleet have been doing this for sleeper sites, and most other ships can do it to differing degrees of success fulness. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-considerations-has-ccp-made-for-pve-after-resist-nerf/231380.md?page=9)