# What do I need to know as someone who hasn't played in almost 10 years? **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [January 27, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-i-need-to-know-as-someone-who-hasnt-played-in-almost-10-years/53688 "2018-01-27T14:07:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DubanFP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dubanfp/32/51434_2.png) [@DubanFP](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DubanFP)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-i-need-to-know-as-someone-who-hasnt-played-in-almost-10-years/53688/1 "2018-01-27T14:07:08Z")
As the title says. I was an avid PVPer in 2008ish, but quit and haven’t really been back since. What’s changed, and what do I need to know to get back into PVP now? Edit: BTW, are there any tools to help determine how to fit a ship? ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-i-need-to-know-as-someone-who-hasnt-played-in-almost-10-years/53688/2 "2018-01-27T14:55:40Z")
- you must have 200 accounts to win a fight - In highsec NPCs will kill you now - Everything costs 4x as before - Level 4 mission payout is less - If you fight goons, they crash the node to “win” - Most ships have changed since Cruicible and I strongly advise to read all the patch notes - We have medium, large and x-large stations that you can spam all over the place - You must(nt) input-broadcast 20 motherships to make infinite isk like goons and the like - You can warp to 0km now - We have a fitting simulator in client now No go out there and be pvper ---
**Author:** ![Eternal\_Montage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternal_montage/32/425678_2.png) [@Eternal\_Montage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternal_Montage)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-i-need-to-know-as-someone-who-hasnt-played-in-almost-10-years/53688/3 "2018-01-29T16:05:56Z")
Oh man where does one begin? There’s just too much. I would maybe watch some youtube videos and read some patch notes, but here’s the cliff notes: -Battlecruisers & hacs aren’t all anybody flies anymore -Faction warfare was redone from the ground up and people play it more -probing is easier -everything is more expensive but it’s also easier to make isk -salvage is almost worthless now -planetary interaction is a thing now but no one really pays attention to it -they added weird special wormholes -you can group weapons now lol -t2 rigs and implants are actually affordable now, go ahead and indulge yourself -there are level 4 missions called burner missions that you do in frigates and they pay a lot of isk -pos’es are on their way out and being replaced by citadels, citadels cost more to upkeep but they’re super powerful in fights. -off grid links are gone now, replaced buy aoe command bursts -a lot of new ships -sov was redone from the ground up, better in some ways worse in others -carriers are way different now and they can only use fighters, no more drones -dreads can use “little” guns for shooting subcaps -the rifter went from being the best frigate to one of the worst I’ll post more if I think of anything else. Welcome back. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-i-need-to-know-as-someone-who-hasnt-played-in-almost-10-years/53688/4 "2018-01-31T15:59:19Z")
> [@Eternal\_Montage](#): > > -t2 rigs and implants are actually affordable now, go ahead and indulge yourself Ah cool, so that’s why a large t2 trimark “only” costs 150 million isk. ---
**Author:** ![Alirna\_Arbiter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alirna_arbiter/32/31192_2.png) [@Alirna\_Arbiter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alirna_Arbiter)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-i-need-to-know-as-someone-who-hasnt-played-in-almost-10-years/53688/5 "2018-01-31T18:10:35Z")
That would make it one of the mroe expensive, then, no? ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Sebiestar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_sebiestar/32/502522_2.png) [@Mina\_Sebiestar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Sebiestar)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-i-need-to-know-as-someone-who-hasnt-played-in-almost-10-years/53688/6 "2018-01-31T18:58:30Z")
Ccp look away boting runs rampant. Ccp supported sp farming too. Ganking unarmed and unwilling is leet. Blob or be gone. If you want to carebear go to null. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-i-need-to-know-as-someone-who-hasnt-played-in-almost-10-years/53688/7 "2018-05-01T18:58:43Z")
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