# What do miners think of bots? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 2, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548 "2019-10-02T19:54:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/62 "2019-11-11T14:39:48Z")
Are you role playing a dense miner? ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/63 "2019-11-11T14:52:35Z")
I don’t mine. I said how I feel about miners and isk hoarding above. ---
**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/64 "2019-11-11T15:24:42Z")
What I think of bots, I don’t have control of bots and neither does CODE they can say they do but only CCP has the ability to police bots. You can scream about how it’s messing up the game and report bot names but CCP has their own bots that mine so the idea makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/65 "2019-11-11T15:29:57Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I just find them easy to dislike A natural prejudice, there’s no such thing, why are people damaging and hating on Tesla vehicles, no reasonable explanations can be given except it is something to vent the human propensity to be unhappy. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > My objective analysis Oxymoron or duality, both? > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > the dirty little secret about the human miners is that, in everything they do, they aspire to _become_ bots. Assumption - a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof, you are concluding thought based upon hyperbole and that is a sign that you are processing what you see rather the empirical evidence based upon actual facts and data to support this. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Allow me to make one thing perfectly clear to the humans who mine in highsec: We suicide gankers will make no distinction between the botters and those who harbor them. And based upon your own post anything to rebuff your stance is futile, a mind that will not see the flaws in the logic is a mind that will continue to wander aimlessly. I wish you well. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/66 "2019-11-11T15:58:21Z")
> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#): > > Assumption - a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof, you are concluding thought based upon hyperbole and that is a sign that you are processing what you see rather the empirical evidence based upon actual facts and data to support this. What Akio said is backed by an insanely huge data set of dead miners. When it comes to science the New Order is at the forefront of research. As always, the pitiful excuses and bad justifications of the miners in this thread stand in STARK contrast to our scientific approach. ---
**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/67 "2019-11-11T16:08:26Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > When it comes to science the New Order is at the forefront of research. This is a in game fiction thread they won’t break character. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/68 "2019-11-11T16:30:41Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > What Akio said is backed by an insanely huge data set of dead miners. When it comes to science the New Order is at the forefront of research. “Alternative facts” - Kellyanne Conway. Twisting something into a pretzel to confuse isn’t fact. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/69 "2019-11-11T16:34:53Z")
> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#): > > Twisting something into a pretzel to confuse isn’t fact. I know miners get confused super fast. That is why we usually don’t bother and try to explain the facts and just straight tell you what to do. It’s more efficient that way really. Do you have any other questions while I’m here? ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/70 "2019-11-11T16:40:36Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > just straight tell you what to do And why should anyone bow to the absurd. ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/71 "2019-11-11T16:42:09Z")
I thought I closed notifications but looks like I do it wrong, so I’m back one last time. You jumped to the conclusion that every miner is mindless isk hoarding bot based on those miners you encountered before, but such conclusion is biased unless you suddenly get the magical ability to examine EVERY miner’s mind. As I think that’s theoretically and practically impossible. And I notice ya all are evading some of my statements. As a result I’ll mention them again. Tell me, who get all these materials to produce the ammunition and ships so you can happily roam around with guns blazing? Tritanium are really harvested from trees?! Or great James 315 simply says “Let there be minerals”, and there is minerals? You’re despising someone who keeps your career going. If you hate miners that much, stop buying ships, modules or anything produced from minerals, that’s the most efficient way to eliminate miners, and with them the whole game LMAO. Another point you’ve been evading is that, why highsec miners only? There’s plenty more players who act like a bot as well. Take myself for example, everyday I fly my battleship to emerging conduits, shoot some trigs, get the loot, repair, and do it again. Occasionally I move to my hauler ship and sell the loot/get ammo for my battleship, but still, by many aspects, I am one of the “bot” you despise. Not only me, literally all the pilots who dedicate themselves to PVE contents are “bots”. So why target miners only? My answer to the question is that CODE simply lack the nerve to challenge anything that shoots back. I dare you to prove me wrong. As usual, have a nice day, I’m returning to kill more trigs, hope you make some solid points against me when I return. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/72 "2019-11-11T16:44:41Z")
> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > they have fxxking dreams! if you feel no guilty when killing someone’s dream right in the cradle…it just proves you’re someone with no empathy 😭 Yep. I got no empathy. I am a soulless bot killing machine. 👽 ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/73 "2019-11-11T17:01:06Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Yep. I got no empathy. I am a soulless bot killing machine. I don’t see any solid arguments here, so I start to doubt you lack the necessary ability to construct any of them, what a pity. With the ability to think you can achieve more than being just a tool of the new order. But that’s your business and I’m no position telling you what to do. Praise James the Banned. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/74 "2019-11-11T17:03:02Z")
> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > I’m no position telling you what to do. That’s right, you are a plebian nobody. ---
**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/75 "2019-11-11T17:17:46Z")
Code is backed and funded by Rich null sec miner corporations to oppress the low income miner all the Rich miners laugh and pat each other on the backs when Code does their work for them. The James doctrine was conspired and developed by a table of many Null sec miner corporations as a guard dog philosophy to keep new corporations from forming and keep competition down. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/76 "2019-11-11T17:21:46Z")
> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > You jumped to the conclusion that every miner is mindless isk hoarding bot We don’t jump to any conclusion. This is all based on countless data points collected over multiple years. We where quite thorough. > [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > Tell me, who get all these materials to produce the ammunition and ships so you can happily roam around with guns blazing? It drops from dead miners. I then reprocess it and forge it into new weapons to kill more miners. It is a perfect cycle. > [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > why highsec miners only? We kill a lot more than just miners. The Code covers all activities in highsec. > [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > CODE simply lack the nerve to challenge anything that shoots back. I dare you to prove me wrong. Just take a look at my killboard, it is full of criminals that tried to shoot back. It’s not the weapons that make us superior to our enemies, it is the Code. ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/77 "2019-11-11T17:23:17Z")
> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > Another point you’ve been evading is that, why highsec miners only? There’s plenty more players who act like a bot as well. Take myself for example, everyday I fly my battleship to emerging conduits, shoot some trigs, get the loot, repair, and do it again. Occasionally I move to my hauler ship and sell the loot/get ammo for my battleship, but still, by many aspects, I am one of the “bot” you despise. Not only me, literally all the pilots who dedicate themselves to PVE contents are “bots”. So why target miners only? My answer to the question is that CODE simply lack the nerve to challenge anything that shoots back. I dare you to prove me wrong. Here are 3 kills, just from today, that prove you wrong. > **[Nemesis | Waterman | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/79839691/)** > > Waterman (Center for Advanced Studies) lost their Nemesis in Kamio (The Citadel) Total Value: 46,518,889.19 ISK > **[Astero | J3T Mechanic | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/79839254/)** > > J3T Mechanic (000 Russian Academy 000) lost their Astero in Kamio (The Citadel) Total Value: 119,752,839.15 ISK > **[Gila | Tinyleaf | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/79838766/)** > > Tinyleaf (Cheong Hae Jin) lost their Gila in Osmon (The Forge). Final Blow by Liek DarZ (New Order Logistics) flying in a Capsule. Total Value: 295,609,132.02 ISK I guess those ships couldn’t shoot back, huh? There are countless more examples of these every single day. > [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > Praise James the Banned. Actually, he logs in regularly. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/78 "2019-11-11T17:29:30Z")
> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#): > > Praise James the Banned. Our Saviour James 315 was permabanned for our sinns. But he was resurrected from the banned and came back to save highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/79 "2019-11-11T17:33:37Z")
> [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](#): > > …CCP has their own bots that mine so the idea makes no sense. This is your brain on ore, people. ---
**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/80 "2019-11-11T17:36:07Z")
> [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > This is your brain on ore, people. What do you think a NPC miner corporation is? (Sorry I keep forgetting this is a role playing thread) ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/81 "2019-11-11T17:43:01Z")
> [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](#): > > Code is backed and funded by Rich null sec miner corporations to oppress the low income miner all the Rich miners laugh and pat each other on the backs when Code does their work for them. > > The James doctrine was conspired and developed by a table of many Null sec miner corporations as a guard dog philosophy to keep new corporations from forming and keep competition down. Great! Everything makes sense now. I finally know where all the funds and supporters come from. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > It drops from dead miners. I then reprocess it and forge it into new weapons to kill more miners. It is a perfect cycle. Hmmm…I can’t say you’re wrong, but if there’s no miners you get nothing, just a small reminder. As for the other questions I see you provide some proof, which is good. I’ll dig into zkill myself to verify your point. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548.md?page=5)