# What do miners think of bots?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 2, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548 "2019-10-02T19:54:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/82 "2019-11-11T17:49:45Z")

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> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> Everything makes sense now.

It is usually a sign of a state of complete confusion if a miner says that. Better don’t listen to that nonsense the other mimer said and just ask your local New Order Agent if you have a question, he/she will tell you what to do.

> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> I can’t say you’re wrong

Now we make progress here.

> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> but

Oh well

> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> if there’s no miners you get nothing, just a small reminder.

At least now you ask the right person. You see, if there where no miners we would not need ships to destroy them. We could all just play in Corvette’s which magically spawn from thin air and everything would be perfectly balanced.

> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> I’ll dig into zkill myself to verify your point.

Here I provide you with a link so you don’t get lost [https://zkillboard.com/character/507147780/](https://zkillboard.com/character/507147780/)

You are welcome

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**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/83 "2019-11-11T17:50:51Z")

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> [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](#):
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> What do you think a NPC miner corporation is?
> 
> (Sorry I keep forgetting this is a role playing thread)

Player bots introduce their output to the economy.

NPC miner output is blackholed.

Like I said… this is your brain on ore.

At this point, it should be clear that CODE ganking is basically a mercy killing.

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**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/84 "2019-11-11T17:53:08Z")

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Wait what?! You want a game where everyone fly corvettes?! No, just no LOL

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/85 "2019-11-11T17:53:10Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> We where quite thorough.

Hehe.

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**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/86 "2019-11-11T17:53:56Z")

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Yes but the Ore is depleted in that system by the NPC’s and lack of resources effects the economy basic economics.

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**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/87 "2019-11-11T17:57:49Z")

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I’d like to refute that point. Yes the ore is depleted by the NPCs, but the rocks respawn daily and the amount respawned are based on how many were mined yesterday. This make the ore supply reach equilibrium and keep supply/demand in check.

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**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/88 "2019-11-11T17:58:50Z")

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I didn’t know that, thank you

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**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/89 "2019-11-11T18:00:13Z")

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> [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](#):
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> Yes but the Ore is depleted in that system by the NPC’s and lack of resources effects the economy basic economics.

That has no impact on the overall economy. It’s a purely localized effect that, at most, inconveniences a few miners who are too lazy to move over a system.

The amount of ore available globally is effectively infinite. There is never **not** a point where you can go somewhere and harvest ore.

The bottleneck on ore hitting the market is the time required to harvest it, not its availability in the field.

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**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/90 "2019-11-11T18:09:44Z")

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Just read through zkill about the whole CODE, it seems like most of you like to gank smaller ships, frigates and cruisers, probably because gankers can’t afford sth too expensive since they’re bound to loose the ship. I did see bigger ships got killed, all done by a member corp called Nordwind, which has 15 members in game, and they use tornadoes, for which I assume is the high alpha strike tornadoes provide.

I see what you mean here. Yeah, by definition CODE do shoot those who can fight back, but only when they have absolute advantage. Pretty much the same for most PVPers, I’m satisfied with this answer.

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**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/91 "2019-11-11T18:11:28Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> just ask your local New Order Agent if you have a question, he/she will tell you what to do.

“Compartmentalization” of course that is what they do

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/92 "2019-11-11T18:18:58Z")

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(Teach your children)  
Don’t you ever ask them, “Why?”  
If they told you, you would cry.  
So, just look at them and sigh,  
And know they love you.

Dedicated to the code.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/93 "2019-11-11T19:00:42Z")

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I see you got your ass handed to you recently: [https://zkillboard.com/kill/79088625/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/79088625/)

Even more than once actually. Should have bought a permit, miner.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/94 "2019-11-11T19:02:21Z")

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> [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](#):
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> Yes but the Ore is depleted in that system by the NPC’s and lack of resources effects the economy basic economics.

No, it doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/95 "2019-11-11T19:37:40Z")

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> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> Yeah, by definition CODE do shoot those who can fight back, but only when they have absolute advantage.

Since we have the Code we always have the absolute advantage, that is true. Even when outnumbered.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/96 "2019-11-11T20:04:44Z")

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CODE is in the winning business, so we do try to focus on winning, always!

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**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/97 "2019-11-11T20:12:37Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> I see you got your ass handed to you recently: [Retriever | Aiden en Divalone | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/79088625/)

Not really, at the point of that gank I already mined enough for a battleship, so it’s a goodbye to miner career actually. Now I mine triglavians with my guns.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/98 "2019-11-11T20:49:08Z")

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> [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> Now I mine triglavians with my guns.

Not for long if you don’t get a mining permit.

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**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/99 "2019-11-11T21:24:47Z")

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> [@Pix\_Severus](#):
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> Actually, he logs in regularly.

Where _does_ he spend his time, anyway? I’ve never seen the guy on local before.

> [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](#):
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> CCP has their own bots that mine so the idea makes no sense.

…those are _NPCs_.

> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> Just take a look at my killboard, it is full of criminals that tried to shoot back. It’s not the weapons that make us superior to our enemies, it is the Code.

At a glance, you seem to go hunting for war targets just as much as you do miners.

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**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/100 "2019-11-11T21:49:52Z")

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> [@Valiran\_Teleros](#):
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> Where _does_ he spend his time, anyway? I’ve never seen the guy on local before.

Hek. It’s where all the cool people hang out these days.

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**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-miners-think-of-bots/193548/101 "2019-11-11T22:09:28Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> Not for long if you don’t get a mining permit.

Since when CODE start collecting permits from ratting?

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