# What do you feel is a simple change that could increase our playbase? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 30, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364 "2022-10-30T01:00:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/248 "2022-11-07T19:29:53Z")
must be destiny i don’t remember of talking about it ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/249 "2022-11-07T19:34:28Z")
> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > The creator was an Ultima Online player It’s funny cause the original devs of EVE were too. I mean I may be biased but UO has had a lasting impact for a reason. Also I killed 3 people for you on UOO this weekend and took their heads 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/250 "2022-11-07T19:43:15Z")
[Ashes of Creation](https://ashesofcreation.com/) Pvp and griefing [Development Update with Gathering Showcase - 11AM PT Friday, October 28, 2022 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_P7AK22_18&t=835s) ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/251 "2022-11-07T20:20:52Z")
Yes, UO will always be the grand reference in MMOs, that’s why EVE was s good ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/252 "2022-11-07T20:39:42Z")
> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > that’s why EVE **was** s good yeah yeah ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/253 "2022-11-07T21:01:23Z")
Try space enginers it’s sort of like eve ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/254 "2022-11-07T21:34:45Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > @tutucox_Khamsi were you the one that was telling us about some survival game with PvP? Or was the @Destiny_Corrupted ? I play many full-loot PvP survival games like Rust, Dayz, Deadside, etc. But while being full-loot PvP games, their scope is different from EVE, as there’s no long-term progression. It’s just a “collect items and survive as long as possible” kind of gameplay loop, so not a true analogue for EVE. There are _very few_ long-term progression MMOs with EVE’s PvP-centric gameplay archetype out there (e.g. Albion), and _all_ of them have people on the forums begging for the PvP to be turned off. The Survival PvP shooters too, even the ones with PvE servers as an option. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/255 "2022-11-07T21:41:07Z")
This is 0% surprising. Virtually everyone alive today was raised with some kind of compulsory education that brought them up from a very young age to follow directions and not question authority. Then, after many, many years of that, they get to choose among the diverse universe of jobs - almost all of which require them to follow directions and not question authority. The compensation is that, if they follow directions real good and don’t ask the wrong questions, they can live in a nice house (or maybe studio) with air conditioning. Why would people want to play a game with an open world? It goes against their very upbringing and the value system they have been taught. It is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/256 "2022-11-07T21:48:28Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > The compensation is that, if they follow directions real good and don’t ask the wrong questions, they can live in a nice house (or maybe studio) with air conditioning. Wait, what? I never got the memo on that. Can I have something in writing to show my overlords? ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/257 "2022-11-07T21:49:13Z")
me who is in that teaching system dosen’t lissten to that. (minecraft though and any good game now is open world) ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/258 "2022-11-10T09:12:53Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > I guess I could grind Pochven standings, but that makes me want to barf. Its like max 2 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/259 "2022-11-10T15:00:20Z")
That depends on what I plan to do with those standings, no? ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/260 "2022-11-10T16:44:24Z")
O you mean grinding to 7.0? mad man 😃 also having to give up on edencom standings to get that does not seem worth it imo. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/261 "2022-11-10T16:49:35Z")
You could get to 7.0 with just shooting drones. It just takes dedication. Right? ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/262 "2022-11-10T16:53:58Z")
Nope drones will reach 10 and you will stop getting trig standings if you mix in drifters it will reach 10 too and it wont be enough to get trig 7 you have to shoot edencom aswell and get it into negitive. ![Standings](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/3/73437ee994d7ff307990f64842bf91173783fc23.jpeg) my drifters is -8 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/263 "2022-11-10T16:55:40Z")
Wow. CCP has thought of every possible way of making their game suck. There is literally nothing left to do in the sandbox. Thanks for letting me know, man. I felt kind-of guilty for not participating in Pochven - up until just now. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/264 "2022-11-10T16:56:07Z")
Come to FW its ridiculously good atm. Our corp is top 5 on zkill weekly atm lol. So many fights. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/265 "2022-11-10T16:56:57Z")
I don’t do anything that requires comms. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/266 "2022-11-10T16:57:16Z")
me wishing i could do faction warfare ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/267 "2022-11-10T16:57:36Z")
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