# What do you feel is a simple change that could increase our playbase?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 30, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364 "2022-10-30T01:00:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/268 "2022-11-10T16:58:04Z")

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Me owing a corporation and just have finding a good alliance

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/269 "2022-11-10T16:58:38Z")

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Fair CCP said they are working towards that for early next year then you dont have to leave corp or alliance. Could always roll an alt for Fw for now.

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/270 "2022-11-10T16:59:05Z")

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true that but yeah can’t wait till that happens

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**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/271 "2022-11-14T03:14:34Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Abyssals seem like an entirely different game than Eve.

You hit that nail in with just one swing. Yes.

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**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/272 "2022-11-14T03:17:03Z")

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> [@Jae\_Dahler](#):
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> I know DUST was supposed to fight over planets but maybe some kind of cargo game instead with worker/militia/religion themed agents cancelling each other out would be fun.

PI/FreeCiv/Lincity. The free code is out there to steal. Do it.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/273 "2022-11-14T03:22:53Z")

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stop nerfing PVP

look at the marauders for example  
you need a ■■■■■■■ army to kill  
carebear inject the skills and think he is the toughest guy on the west  
OMAGAD  
rly

frigate EHP 4k, destroyer ehp 7k , mining barge ehp 90k …

and people cry for new rules on top  
■■■■

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/274 "2022-11-14T03:24:28Z")

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People in faction warfare shouldn’t be allowed in Jita.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/275 "2022-11-14T03:25:20Z")

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[quote="Xeux, post:274, topic:382364, full:true, username:Xeux”]  
People in faction warfare shouldn’t be allowed in Jita.  
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but but  
😭

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**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/276 "2022-11-14T03:28:57Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> People in faction warfare shouldn’t be allowed in Jita.

What the Hek are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/277 "2022-11-14T03:29:16Z")

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> [@LowKey\_Chandler](#):
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> What the Hek are you talking about?

she is ■■■■■■■ with me  
is just a joke

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/278 "2022-11-14T03:30:01Z")

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Loki understands that. “Hek” being the keyword here.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/279 "2022-11-14T03:31:34Z")

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get the hek out of Amarr

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Tirel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_tirel/32/345081_2.png) [@Cpt\_Tirel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Tirel)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/280 "2022-11-14T03:59:01Z")

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Eve is a dead horse. How long can you beat a dead horse? A long time. Perhaps a necromancer could increase our playerbase.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/281 "2022-11-14T04:02:56Z")

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> [@Cpt\_Tirel](#):
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> Eve is a dead horse. How long can you beat a dead horse? A long time. Perhaps a necromancer could increase our playerbase.

at some point it becomes horse pate  
i love horse pate and probably could eat a Kg / day  
so the question is the weight of the horse and how many more players will eat  
them we can estimate how long will last

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**Author:** ![Yoko\_Sabe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yoko_sabe/32/342107_2.png) [@Yoko\_Sabe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yoko_Sabe)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/282 "2022-11-14T04:48:42Z")

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Remove having a structure requirement for wars.  
Maybe the corp putting war have to have an active structure only.  
Anyone should be able to put war on anyone, get rid of silly stuff.

If you don’t want war then join NPC corps, simple.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/283 "2022-11-14T05:19:47Z")

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> [@Yoko\_Sabe](#):
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> If you don’t want war then join NPC corps, simple.

All NPC Corps enlist Capsuleers for their own War efforts.  
Pick a side when creating your Pilot

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_V\_Bright](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joseph_v_bright/32/317904_2.png) [@Joseph\_V\_Bright](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joseph_V_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/284 "2022-11-15T12:27:46Z")

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Perma-blocking safety at green in HS to prevent any possibility of non-consensual PvP in 0.5-1.0 systems with following additional changes to preserve risk vs reward ratio:

1. Complete removal of Level 3 and 4 agents(all types) from high sec
2. Complete removal of DED sites above 2/10 from high sec; this includes escalations
3. Complete removal of unrated combat sites above Level 2 from HS
4. Complete removal of abyssals of any tier from HS
5. Significant reduction of loot drop by HS data and relic sites; loot value per site should not exceed 2-3 mil ISK
6. Reduction of minerals content in HS ores(belt and moon) by factor of 3 or 4
7. Suspect-level offence commited in Low sec should not impact player’s security status
8. Reduction of system security of certain pipeline star systems by 0.1, thus making them a low sec systems(Uedama, Balle etc) in order to split high sec apart, solve problem of caldari overpopulation and increase value of regional trade hubs. Basically high sec desperately needs to be balkanized.
9. Increase NPC corp tax to 20-25%

These changes would turn high sec in to safe and inclusive environment for a new players.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/285 "2022-11-15T12:40:55Z")

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So… how would these new players finance any kind of attempt to do anything outside of HS?

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_V\_Bright](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joseph_v_bright/32/317904_2.png) [@Joseph\_V\_Bright](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joseph_V_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/286 "2022-11-15T12:43:30Z")

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Same way as now- by doing stuff in low or null

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-feel-is-a-simple-change-that-could-increase-our-playbase/382364/287 "2022-11-15T12:44:21Z")

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I think you missed the actual question.

How would they finance going to those places with such a drastic reduction in their incomes?

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