# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Jita\_Point\_Bot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jita_point_bot/32/383046_2.png) [@Jita\_Point\_Bot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jita_Point_Bot)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/183 "2019-06-29T03:11:52Z")
I miss the old Rifter 😢 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/184 "2019-06-29T03:22:02Z")
What do I miss? It is the insane ways we could rape the large alliances for kills in high sec with a small corp of players with no SP, just because we lucked out and joined up with a good corp that had couple of really good FC’s! Once again, SP don’t matter, knowledge of the game does… ---
**Author:** ![Cpt\_Kupo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_kupo/32/144242_2.png) [@Cpt\_Kupo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Kupo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/185 "2019-06-29T03:24:26Z")
Capitals being a niche role. Allowing gate jumping was a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![SeerinDarkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seerindarkness/32/181638_2.png) [@SeerinDarkness](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SeerinDarkness)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/186 "2019-06-29T05:28:56Z")
60k+ players online , but nooo they had to break the game with Dominion ■■■■ you patch. gone downhill since , and no CSM. you do realise CSM stands for Chaos Space Marines right…no good will ever come of this no matter how you dress it up. ---
**Author:** ![Annie\_Reid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annie_reid/32/429460_2.png) [@Annie\_Reid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annie_Reid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/187 "2019-06-29T07:13:21Z")
I miss the rains. ---
**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/188 "2019-06-29T13:22:35Z")
so true. clone insurance or loose heaps of SP’s on death. limited number of ship classes and ships. before T2 release you only had 5 ships for each faction mining in Apoc’s or similar BS’s and using Indy ships to transport ore back to the nearest station, as it was the safest and fastest way to mine, while fending of NPC rat and the odd free loading player trying to steal your ore cans. the big expansion race out to explore and claim nulspace when it was made available, reminded me of the old land rushes in the OLD WEST of USA. faction police, these NPC’s make the current CONCORD look like idiots. you steal a can you’d have at least 2 faction ships of equal or better specs than your ship chasing you down. walking around the station. the community learning the game together and helping each other, even if we were killing each other a few hours before hand. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/189 "2019-06-29T14:04:51Z")
I miss my Curse’s 3rd engine ---
**Author:** ![Glathull](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glathull/32/234710_2.png) [@Glathull](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glathull)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/190 "2019-06-29T19:57:40Z")
Tippia and the old forums in general. Learning skills. Trying to pvp in the old school pve drakes and how much people hated you for being a noob trying to bring them to fleets. ---
**Author:** ![Veryez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veryez/32/508712_2.png) [@Veryez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veryez)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/191 "2019-06-29T22:14:43Z")
Another 2005 player chiming in, started playing after reading about GHSC’s heist and execution. God there is so much I miss: But most of all I miss my buddylist - so many friends gone forever. People I have known and spoken to everyday for almost 10 years - gone, mostly because CCP in their desire to get people to move out to null, destroyed the risk-reward balance they had. CCP needs to make it much harder to hold territory than to conquer it. They need to remove Asset Safety and make the risk match the immense rewards available in null. The CSM isn’t the problem, CCP forgot what made EvE great in the first place, and sadly I think they are afraid to undo what they have done. I love EvE and will probably maintain characters in EvE until the servers shutdown, I wish CCP would retrace their steps and return EvE to greatness. ---
**Author:** ![Alasdair\_Kreoss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alasdair_kreoss/32/417337_2.png) [@Alasdair\_Kreoss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alasdair_Kreoss)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/192 "2019-06-30T16:05:18Z")
The old neocom, I liked the variation in colors and it looked nice. Also the jukebox - below the asteroids on repeat. ---
**Author:** ![Jita\_Point\_Bot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jita_point_bot/32/383046_2.png) [@Jita\_Point\_Bot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jita_Point_Bot)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/193 "2019-07-02T22:22:42Z")
Long ago in another life 3 guys in Rifters could get drunk and roam all night terrorizing lowsec. You see back in 07 rifters werent shite and people actually went to lowsec. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/194 "2019-07-03T01:00:04Z")
I miss when our opinions mattered. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/195 "2019-07-03T01:46:57Z")
I remember the heydays of Rens 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/196 "2019-07-03T01:49:35Z")
“I has drake” ---
**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/197 "2019-07-03T04:22:10Z")
When the player base had a backbone and CCPs answer was HTFU. Also WiS and the possibility of DUST going to PC… LOL ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/198 "2019-07-03T07:25:30Z")
When bread was on the ration and children could be mutilated cos it was good for building character. ---
**Author:** ![Speedkermit\_Damo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/speedkermit_damo/32/144817_2.png) [@Speedkermit\_Damo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Speedkermit_Damo)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/199 "2019-07-03T12:04:21Z")
When lowsec wasn’t a desert. When wars meant something When there were people in the belts When the game wasn’t run for the benefit of Mittens ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Icewater](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_icewater/32/144241_2.png) [@Major\_Icewater](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Icewater)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/200 "2019-07-03T15:58:41Z")
Stacked MWD Mynxee Python Cartel Helicity Bosun and Andrea Skye Ruppee Rue in Dodixie, regardless of whatever happened, the loss of an engaging, shittalking, scamming, all around fun, and most importantly ACTIVE chat in a trade hub cannot be overlooked. If you wanted to point at one massive problem in Eve right now, its the creepy silence everywhere in local. And I havent seen a colored text in local chat for any reason other than to scold someone in quite literally years. Do you guys even play your game? Is it even fun at all for you? Because you act like its your job. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/201 "2019-07-03T22:07:08Z")
Guard. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/202 "2019-07-03T22:39:08Z")
I miss that feeling of having my first cargo loss. Short story, when first starting in New Eden I was bootlegging npc crafted tobacco across many Stargates. > **[Mammoth | Iceacid Frostpacker | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/71452398/)** > > Iceacid Frostpacker (Brutor Tribe) lost their Mammoth in Ualkin (Metropolis) Total Value: 3,146,803.02 ISK My path I had started to take is different today than I had wanted it to go and I miss that. It had changed because of how the game seem to pigeon hole me into doing other less fun things. Just wanted to share that memory. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=11)