# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/528 "2020-02-17T17:13:28Z")
Amen to that last bit especially. ---
**Author:** ![Peternety\_Pancake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peternety_pancake/32/170825_2.png) [@Peternety\_Pancake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peternety_Pancake)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/529 "2020-02-17T19:36:42Z")
I miss decent DLC packs, the new ones are complete garbage I would not buy them at half price. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/530 "2020-02-17T23:22:59Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > Yeah, red dots was the literal opposite of what people who were hoping for a break from anything going wrong towards the end of current issues with server/chat. **At this point I think everyone wants red dots to get dealt with, connection/chat issues fixed and a nice long period of CCP not trying to do anything that might lead to more issues or negative feedback for awhile would be a relief even if it meant not adding new content for awhile if there was a chance it gave us all a break from anything else going wrong.** So sad, but I feel it’s true. Without a roadmap and with mounting evidence that CCP no longer knows what to do about EVE, changes will just tend to go south. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/532 "2020-02-20T02:58:53Z")
Old friends who have left the game. It’s not the same without them. ---
**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/533 "2020-02-25T12:16:04Z")
To be honest? ISK. We used to PVP for moon control. Setting up a series of POS and emptying them out occasionaly was doable for a small corp. Then we hade to break apart moons and **mine** them. Say what now? Six months later my corp was dead because nobody, including myself, had any interest in such PVE activities, and we weren’t numerous enough to claim better space then a slice of lowsec. The higher my skills, the more expensive my ships, the more PVE I had to do to keep up. And I miss not having to do that. We weren’t making boatloads of cash but enough to field a decent fleet and actually do stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrrashae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lyrrashae/32/382227_2.png) [@Lyrrashae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lyrrashae)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/534 "2020-02-26T17:26:38Z")
Simply put, I miss EVE bloody well _being EVE_. I don’t know what this hollow, _insultingly_ shallow, one-dimensional, zero-player-agency RMT-driven botters’ paradise is, but it sure as ■■■■ ain’t any EVE that I ever would have wanted to play. CCP Seagull and all the blatant nullsec ball-polishers that call themselves “devs” --100% deliberately, I strongly suspect-- destroyed this game, fullstop/end-of. I don’t know why people are having such a hard time saying it, but it needs to be said. It was one Hell of a ride prior to late 2013/14, but it’s painfully clear that our time is finished. (From what I’ve been hearing, even _Chribba_ just doesn’t seem to give a ■■■■ anymore --Allowing that to happen with someone who is/was that deeply committed to your community, _for that long_ is not just dumb, it’s bloody well _criminally irresponsible_.) Just as an aside: I also miss forum moderators the quality of CCP Zymurgist, who were actually involved with the forum community --not the mindless rule-quoting jobsworths we’ve had for like 7 years now. The old forums --IE, the first iteration-- as well. For all their flaws, not-aged-gracefully-at-all look, and occasional clunkiness, they always just felt like someone who was “someone” actually give a crap and paid attention. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/535 "2020-02-29T02:30:30Z")
What I miss is when you had to fight for basically everything. It made for more active players it seems. I could go on but the point is moot. Oh, and the dream of flying a cap ship in a 1000 man fleet. That point seems moot as well. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/536 "2020-02-29T09:29:08Z")
> [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](#): > > The higher my skills, the more expensive my ships, the more PVE I had to do to keep up. Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/537 "2020-02-29T09:30:58Z")
> [@Agent\_5B](#): > > People wise the departed are missed but may they have a life instead. _…and the living will envy the dead_ ---
**Author:** ![per](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/per/32/189746_2.png) [@per](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/per)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/538 "2020-02-29T16:39:35Z")
i miss coloured neocom icons ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/539 "2020-02-29T17:26:58Z")
I read that as I nom coloured nomnom inoms ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/540 "2020-02-29T21:51:19Z")
Fun war decs of old, how there were multiple highsec corps and alliances having fun waging war and fighting, now there’s like one alliance and everything is based around removing structures to balance out CCP’s checkbook on the isk sink. Also miss the lore stories behind every content drop or how CCP wanted to engage you in the story of eve with either a new trailer or some long open ended world mission… Now it’s just Skilling spree and you need to read eve Reddit to find out the new lore of the game… ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/541 "2020-02-29T22:21:31Z")
10-15 million care bears? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/542 "2020-03-01T00:39:37Z")
What an amazing list of responses. Responses virtually completely ignored by CCP. I’m humbled by the fact the community has kept this thread going for so long. The thread has actually out lived my time in the game. Ahh the echos of Eve from a yester year when I’d be busily hoping about from pos to pos. Keep the memories going you guys. I’ve given up the fight, I’ve won Eve but I still enjoy the memories. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/543 "2020-03-11T04:11:36Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > I’ve given up the fight, I’ve won Eve but I still enjoy the memories. Ditto. Last toon down. Good luck everyone! 😃 Edit; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0\_n18P\_ew8A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_n18P_ew8A) ---
**Author:** ![Thorian\_Baalnorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thorian_baalnorn/32/187492_2.png) [@Thorian\_Baalnorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thorian_Baalnorn)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/544 "2020-03-11T07:33:47Z")
I miss the days when the game was dominated by sub caps and people kept their caps for special occasions. I think capitals actually lead to a lot of the current stagnant play in eve right now. I miss the quality that CCP use to put out 10 years ago. The passion they had. I miss fleet fights and roaming gangs and we use to undock and fight in kitchen sink fleets just for fun rather than worry about losing our precious deadspaced fitted SRPed fancy doctrine ships. Hell i remember when i kitchen sink fleet was literally a kitchen sink fleet. You could bring anything from a probe to a raven. IIRC, some Minmatar pilots actually strapped light missile rocket motors to their kitchen sink and flew those. You have not experienced Eve until you have been pistol whipped by a Minmatar in his probe sitting on your windshield like some sort of space horsefly. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/545 "2020-03-12T09:42:39Z")
Oh man, if you think caps are bad, just wait until you hear about supercaps. ---
**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/546 "2020-03-19T15:01:53Z")
Yeah yeah… you can mine and trade (which is technically PVP)… I’ve heard all the classics already so no argumentation is needed. Whatever can be done solo is too much work, it’s painfuly boring, and I don’t want to to it anymore… whatever alernative you had in mind: no thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/547 "2020-03-19T15:49:03Z")
“Stop whining, kid” “Bollocks” “That’s BS and you’re retarded.” “Herf derf CODE” ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/548 "2020-03-19T19:03:10Z")
> [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](#): > > Whatever can be done solo is too much work Hey if you arent enjoying it, you shouldnt feel “forced” to stay I know work can be hard, and quitting is the easiest… Sorry can’t be bothered finishing this… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=26) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=28)