# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/41 "2019-05-09T12:34:43Z")

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evechatter.

Eve died for me with evechatter.

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**Author:** ![Hyjinx\_McStagger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyjinx_mcstagger/32/400327_2.png) [@Hyjinx\_McStagger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyjinx_McStagger)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/42 "2019-05-09T12:41:24Z")

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One thing I do NOT miss - needing bookmarks to travel anywhere due jump-to 0km not being allowed …

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**Author:** ![Hyjinx\_McStagger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyjinx_mcstagger/32/400327_2.png) [@Hyjinx\_McStagger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyjinx_McStagger)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/43 "2019-05-09T12:42:21Z")

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oh yeah - I really miss the original voice of Aurora

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**Author:** ![Mega\_Juggz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mega_juggz/32/515239_2.png) [@Mega\_Juggz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mega_Juggz)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/44 "2019-05-09T13:56:42Z")

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Dont forget why the csm exist…walking in stations.

Ccp went in a random direction with no input at a time when eve was suffering serious problems. The csm was meant to let the players have input.

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**Author:** ![Netan\_MalDoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/netan_maldoran/32/426257_2.png) [@Netan\_MalDoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Netan_MalDoran)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/45 "2019-05-09T14:18:29Z")

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Old POS mining, that was like PI on steroids.

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**Author:** ![22000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/22000/32/132295_2.png) [@22000](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/22000)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/46 "2019-05-09T14:37:18Z")

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Neocom, How do I build a third party app?

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**Author:** ![Malango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malango/32/386623_2.png) [@Malango](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malango)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/47 "2019-05-09T15:11:35Z")

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Jukebox…sigh

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**Author:** ![Ciryc\_Lagrej](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ciryc_lagrej/32/375359_2.png) [@Ciryc\_Lagrej](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ciryc_Lagrej)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/48 "2019-05-09T15:19:03Z")

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The bloody wars. The ones not for content or even for evicting someone but the bloody wars of hate. The ones where people took the game too seriously and hated the other people…those are the fun wars, the ones where blood on both sides was spilled in massive quantities. People would try to take on bigger entities even if it meant losing a lot just because they hated them.

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**Author:** ![Ethan\_Armstrong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ethan_armstrong/32/210768_2.png) [@Ethan\_Armstrong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ethan_Armstrong)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/49 "2019-05-09T15:20:51Z")

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The jukebox and cheap PLEX.

Still think mining should get a total overhaul.

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**Author:** ![Insidious\_Sainthood](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/insidious_sainthood/32/383447_2.png) [@Insidious\_Sainthood](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Insidious_Sainthood)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/50 "2019-05-09T18:12:26Z")

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I miss

Old friends  
Battlercruiser/Battleship meta of 2010-2012  
Calvary Ravens  
Cheap PLEX  
prevalent small gang pvp  
the scarcity of supers  
battleclinic  
waiting 6 months for an epic release  
AT  
Torp explosion graphics  
and again mostly old friends

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/51 "2019-05-09T20:52:45Z")

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Not that I play any more but the things I miss that are now gone:

Wormhole space as it was in the first couple of years - still somewhat unknown and more of a barren wasteland between the bits where people had scratched out an existence giving a good balance of danger and potential.

Rattlesnake/Gila as they were before the drone changes, etc.

The old Kronos with 90% webs - though I actually came to like the Bastion functionality I still wish they’d preserved the old marauders as well.

My old Thanatos with the massive capital changes around 2014 - one of the reasons I quit really as it felt like the loss of a character - I’d been dragging it around behind me for around 2 years or so using it for storage, support, PVE, emergency bailout, etc. and with the changes that was all gone.

Strategic cruisers as they used to be - sure in some cases a bit overpowered but they were fun, massive potential for innovation and actually worth putting some blinged up modules on which gave a bit of a goal to playing to be able to afford that, etc. and made them more interesting to kill because someone might have blinged their one out.

Things I don’t miss:

People complaining about AFK cloakies 😉

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Sebiestar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_sebiestar/32/502522_2.png) [@Mina\_Sebiestar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Sebiestar)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/52 "2019-05-09T23:43:00Z")

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Too hard cant code.

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**Author:** ![Corwin\_Dnari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corwin_dnari/32/264278_2.png) [@Corwin\_Dnari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corwin_Dnari)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/53 "2019-05-10T00:02:16Z")

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What I miss is the friends I used to play with who no longer play the game.

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**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/54 "2019-05-10T00:02:25Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Viderzei](#):
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> > Also miss the old Aura, and how she would laugh at you when got podded and woke up in a new clone and say, “Oh, you foolish pilot!” That’s when you knew you’re weren’t playing a cartoony kids MMO like the other ones.
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> Darn, I’m sad I missed that…  
> Do you have any other funny comments that Aura made back in the time, please ? The only time where we can hear her now is when we use the autopilot 😑

Hmm… My memory is a little hazy. Other than the usual “Warp drive active,” “Docking request accepted,” etc., I think you only heard Aura during the tutorial and clone activation. But the actor who did it did an excellent job at being a sultry/sexy/little edgy AI thing. Help me out with the info, oldbros.

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**Author:** ![Lumukanda\_Theleraese](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lumukanda_theleraese/32/432858_2.png) [@Lumukanda\_Theleraese](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lumukanda_Theleraese)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/55 "2019-05-10T00:29:58Z")

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[Aura](https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/sets/aura)

Like some of the others have mentioned, obviously Aura, old friends, having to put in an effort to explore, even some of the older mechanics where people could bait you or even wardec the corp (don’t ship to ship pvp per se but the game seems to have lost some of that danger element about it).

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/56 "2019-05-10T02:58:15Z")

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What do I miss most?

Balls. \<3

It took balls to play this game when I started. (08)

> [@Mesacc](#):
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> I too started in 2005, right after the fall of SWG. What I miss most was that everyone was new. There were no high skilled vets lurking around every corner waiting to ruin your day. Sure the same D-baggery that happens now was allowed back then… but no one knew about it. No one knew the game inside and out, every little trick, every little exploit, every little advantage. No one knew how to Dr. Strange a fight and predict every possible outcome from every possible ship with every possible loadout. Almost everyone was on equal ground as far as how the game worked. All of the players I started with, most came here for the same reason I did, have been gone for 10+ years now. I know the new will never come back…but I can’t help but miss those days and the players I played with.

And its been to long to get them back in game…

I had THE most fun as a noob with no clue (almost) as to what we were doing! We were lucky enough to hook up with a few really good FC’s who by the time I could fire my 1st pew, had us in pvp. Next thing I know, were taking on all the big alliances on a rotating basis. I miss my hands shaking so bad after a battle that I had a hard time lighting a smoke or taking a drink of beer. I miss taking on a Goon hunter/killer group sent to kill us and manage to win the battle! (Player skill on the part of the FC’s, NOT player sp made the difference)

I miss the trust I had in those guys.

I miss the smack talk in Amarr.

I miss the challenge.

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**Author:** ![Etil\_DeLaFuente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etil_delafuente/32/130895_2.png) [@Etil\_DeLaFuente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etil_DeLaFuente)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/57 "2019-05-10T02:59:59Z")

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Nano ishtars!  
Nano curse!  
Well, nano ships… screw nano nerf  
BoB (Band of Brothers)  
Alliances wars, i still remember when MC steamrolled north, was a great blast  
CAOD

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/58 "2019-05-10T03:34:11Z")

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What do I miss?  
I miss the “real” piracy. People playing the pirate, of capers and tales and stunts. Before the age of “we lured some noob to lowsec and ganked him LOL WELEET BOOOMHEADSHOT!”

I miss the feeling of space being “big”.

I miss the actual game. The days when people were “playing Eve” and looking to have fun and real lols, instead of this spergy “muh ISK/Stats” dystopia that is has become.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/59 "2019-05-10T03:38:00Z")

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I remember the old Aura, and the first “Warp Drive Active” that felt very fast.

Now? Aura sounds like a Brooklyn girl trying to hide her accent and subtly failing at it.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/60 "2019-05-10T03:50:47Z")

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I too miss the people the most. Of the small group of rl friends I started eve with, only I remain in eve years later. I miss playing eve with them and all the fun we had. I miss seeing some people in local and on forums, both friend and foe.

Still enjoying eve, just not as much as at one time.

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