# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Selene\_Bork](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selene_bork/32/436060_2.png) [@Selene\_Bork](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selene_Bork)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/701 "2020-10-26T09:12:51Z")
I miss blackout in null sec. Now that was a really good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Eukaryotian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eukaryotian/32/242653_2.png) [@Eukaryotian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eukaryotian)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/702 "2020-10-26T09:48:58Z")
I miss the old times, where the forums were not just about whining and cyring constantly. ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/703 "2020-10-26T16:34:58Z")
I miss isk ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/704 "2020-10-26T18:39:08Z")
I miss the original Aura, and several other of the older sounds. I miss the time when the players were capable of leaving the piracy, scamming, and general “i’m a bag-of-dicks” role play **in the game**. That and the time when players actually took pride in providing up to date informational websites that new people could browse through to learn about the game. Mostly I miss the old Aura. The modern one is almost the same tone and accent as the person who added a “voice” to newer elevators. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/705 "2020-10-28T03:06:39Z")
The chance to advance the hard way and not have it handed tome on a silver platter every time I log in. ---
**Author:** ![Celephis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/celephis/32/237721_2.png) [@Celephis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Celephis)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/706 "2020-10-28T09:25:38Z")
What I miss the most? For me it’s definitely the feeling that my play time used to translated directly into skill points of my character. In old days usually SP meant how much you know about the game and how long you played. Today SP means nothing. Anyone can create character and over night make this character to have highest skill points in a game using real $$$… It just stinks p2w. For me personally that was main reason why, sadly I stopped playing. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/707 "2020-11-05T23:04:09Z")
It could be the fine bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape Clos du Mont-Olivet 2004 I just consumed, but I do miss ccp Soundwave and his no-nonsense approach to EvE while having his heart on the right spot. At least he would NOT have installed glass ceilings in the game but would have found more ingenious and creative solutions to fix “stuff”. And … his public performances were at least informative and did make sense. Which is more than can be said of certain twitch performances … ---
**Author:** ![Th0rG0d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/th0rg0d/32/181225_2.png) [@Th0rG0d](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Th0rG0d)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/708 "2020-11-06T14:27:31Z")
I miss having the desire to play the game. I just log in, collect my dailies, hit ESC, select 👎, and log off. No real desire to do much more. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/709 "2020-11-06T19:50:45Z")
> [@Th0rG0d](#): > > collect my dailies I miss the days when there were no dailies. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/710 "2020-11-06T21:27:51Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > I miss the days when there were no dailies. # QFT ---
**Author:** ![Rapscallion\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rapscallion_jones/32/454121_2.png) [@Rapscallion\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rapscallion_Jones)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/711 "2020-11-11T00:35:54Z")
POSs, I took delight in setting them up ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/712 "2020-11-11T00:46:36Z")
The respect people gave me when I told them I play it. ---
**Author:** ![Induce\_Deadline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/induce_deadline/32/418955_2.png) [@Induce\_Deadline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Induce_Deadline)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/713 "2020-11-11T08:43:50Z")
In game browser. ---
**Author:** ![Adanxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adanxx/32/292515_2.png) [@Adanxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adanxx)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/714 "2020-11-11T22:16:10Z")
Walking in stations, and what could have come later. Elite:Dangerous is currently adding these to their game. CCP should take a few steps back, and re-implement it back into the game. ---
**Author:** ![Kate\_Velen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kate_velen/32/233224_2.png) [@Kate\_Velen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kate_Velen)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/715 "2020-11-12T14:06:21Z")
Nostalgy is bad, move on ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/716 "2020-11-12T14:18:27Z")
> [@Kate\_Velen](#): > > Nostalgy Irony Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Mick\_Orangelus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mick_orangelus/32/239388_2.png) [@Mick\_Orangelus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mick_Orangelus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/717 "2020-11-12T15:21:31Z")
Its always been p2w. The character bazaar and plex has always been a thing. Its been like this forever and the people who genuinely feel this way all of a sudden are just too stupid and naïve to see what’s been staring them in the face all this time. CASH-\>PLEX-\>SP AND GEAR, all the way back. Only the -\> (Methods) have changed. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/718 "2020-11-12T20:52:44Z")
> [@Mick\_Orangelus](#): > > Its always been p2w. The character bazaar and plex has always been a thing. Which is not P2W, that’s at worst pay for convenience. P2W requires them actually getting a meaningful advantage over what another player could have obtained in regular gameplay, since character bazaar someone else made the character via regular gameplay, and since these days there are plenty of people who are all V’s in the relevant ships they fly, SP can never be a meaningful advantage over other players that meets P2W definitions. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/719 "2020-11-12T21:09:57Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Which is not P2W, that’s at worst pay for convenience. Will people ever stop that pedantic litany as the response to other people not liking the path to P2W that has been relaxing in the slowly heating water over the last few years? Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/720 "2020-11-12T21:13:05Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Will people ever stop that pedantic litany No, because it’s not a pedantic litany, it’s not P2W and complaining about it just hides any real P2W issues. I’m quite anti P2W, but lets actually focus on real P2W stuff, not Pay for convenience which is what stuff like the character bazaar, Plex, & start packs are. When CCP introduce stuff like ‘Pay for Abyss module rerolls’ that’s when it’s going into real P2W territory. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=34) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=36)