# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/802 "2021-02-10T13:37:28Z")

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Being able to play it, I am on Linux.

If I have to go to effort to mess with WINE, I may as well just play Elite Dangerous after all that effort.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/803 "2021-02-11T08:31:28Z")

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I miss the begger girl in Ren and Jita who would rattler her tin, for the life of me her name escapes me but begging skill 2nd to non

Oh and cavalry ravens.

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/804 "2021-02-11T08:35:57Z")

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Hand back your furlough bailout cheque then

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**Author:** ![Jax\_Darwin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jax_darwin/32/255667_2.png) [@Jax\_Darwin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jax_Darwin)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/805 "2021-02-11T09:11:39Z")

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I miss the old outposts, once they came online they were there to stay, you could capture them, but you couldn’t destroy them, so they became landmarks. Pieces of EVE history which sadly no longer exist.

I also miss being able to travel through jump gates without getting a headache from the ridiculous bright flashes as you enter and exit them.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/806 "2021-02-11T09:20:08Z")

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> [@MinorFreak](#):
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> (2004 player),
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> …warping to exact coordinate without 2.5km deviation

Uh huh, not warping to 15km cos you cant warp even with deviation without a BM?

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**Author:** ![Kato\_Szafarchek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kato_szafarchek/32/431271_2.png) [@Kato\_Szafarchek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kato_Szafarchek)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/807 "2021-02-11T16:50:46Z")

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I miss not having to deal with the bloody Agency window.

I can sum up a lot of these minor tweaks and “improvements” to quality of life in three words

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/d/5/ad5a6e026e8dff7e6a9f05a65fd4b8d0f8f08aca.jpeg "ok but why tho") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHXEXBsvTKg)

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/808 "2021-02-12T13:39:00Z")

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I miss being able to do an update on a Linux system and having a usable Eve afterwards…

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/809 "2021-02-12T13:39:36Z")

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Linux was never officially supported so nothing to miss

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**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/810 "2021-02-12T17:24:27Z")

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I miss when CCP supported non-consensual PvP.

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**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/812 "2021-02-17T19:05:00Z")

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Combat refitting, man.

Look, I get the problems it could cause in large carrier fleets, but man, nuking combat refitting destroyed dread piloting… A good dread pilot was worth his weight in gold. Now, go ahead and log in 4 dread alts and occasionally alt+tab through them.

Man, I miss combat refitting.

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**Author:** ![Kaely\_Tanniss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaely_tanniss/32/474209_2.png) [@Kaely\_Tanniss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaely_Tanniss)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/813 "2021-02-17T23:00:30Z")

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Everything. especially some of the awesome people.

…miss you guys ❤

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**Author:** ![Kaely\_Tanniss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaely_tanniss/32/474209_2.png) [@Kaely\_Tanniss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaely_Tanniss)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/814 "2021-02-17T23:03:08Z")

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The old players have been warning CCP for years. They were more interested in the $ than the desires of those who made their game successful. That’s too bad too. Eve was such a great game at its peak. ☹

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**Author:** ![Lugues\_Slive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugues_slive/32/454530_2.png) [@Lugues\_Slive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugues_Slive)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/815 "2021-02-18T04:31:17Z")

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I miss the 15 drone Domi. I know it was a lag bomb, but there was something about the swarm that was reassuring.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/816 "2021-02-18T05:25:58Z")

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the old guys  
i fell that eve is such an old game that there is a generational tension in the playerbase like in real life  
👴

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**Author:** ![Ex0101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ex0101/32/383876_2.png) [@Ex0101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ex0101)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/817 "2021-02-18T13:24:43Z")

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Pleasure Hubs!

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/818 "2021-02-21T16:43:05Z")

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- Challenge
- No login campaign nonsense
- No handholding
- Sense of accomplishment
- Living outside of HiSec actually felt like being in the boonies
- HiSec piracy
- Corp theft
- No scam was against the EULA
- Not getting banned for what you did over a third party service

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**Author:** ![Herdbudn\_ot\_Zeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herdbudn_ot_zeen/32/256955_2.png) [@Herdbudn\_ot\_Zeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herdbudn_ot_Zeen)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/819 "2021-02-22T11:50:55Z")

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> [@Rekindle](#):
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> For the love of god enough skins / hats crate already!!

What would I do with a hat? I shaved my head expressly to look like this, a hat would just look stupid on me.  
I still want a flames skin.

'ot

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**Author:** ![Quentin\_Schaefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quentin_schaefer/32/471507_2.png) [@Quentin\_Schaefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quentin_Schaefer)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/820 "2021-02-22T21:02:12Z")

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I miss how you could save fits for non-playable ships, like the Eidolon, which happens to still be my favorite ship of all time. (I just love the look of it.) I also like the original Enigma frigate, which looked like a Daredevil with a red shield thingie out front.

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**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/821 "2021-02-23T20:44:37Z")

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I miss the other half of our playerbase.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/822 "2021-02-24T04:43:17Z")

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Jukebox.

Speaking of…

Sound.

Strangely my game hasn’t had sound in years.

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