# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/865 "2021-04-16T19:04:52Z")

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Easier industry, tongue in cheek ladies and gents, tongue in cheek. Nearly 2 year its been running, wow.

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**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/866 "2021-04-17T18:58:11Z")

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I miss the game we had before CCP started removing content every patch. Theres seriously less to do in this game then there used to be.

I also miss when CCP had a ■■■■■■■ clue. They are so out of touch with their own game. Its infuriating how little CCP communicates. It’s like, they cant figure out what players want, we tell them, then they just ignore it and do whatever makes Hilmar the most money.

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**Author:** ![Pozdro\_Tubylcy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pozdro_tubylcy/32/265318_2.png) [@Pozdro\_Tubylcy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pozdro_Tubylcy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/867 "2021-04-17T19:42:46Z")

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Hilmar Ty bydlaku!

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**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/868 "2021-04-17T23:18:42Z")

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I missing real PvP in EVE.  
What these kids do nowadays isn’t PvP, it’s just lazy cloaky ambush.  
That’s what I’m missing in EVE. Players who know how to engage in PvP.

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**Author:** ![Aahz\_If](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aahz_if/32/265760_2.png) [@Aahz\_If](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aahz_If)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/869 "2021-04-18T10:49:53Z")

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@Rekindle  
Can’t miss anything as I’m new.  
It’s a bummer to miss things in video games because they were taken out. I’m glad I don’t have that issue with Eve online.

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**Author:** ![Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tursiops_truncatus/32/232426_2.png) [@Tursiops\_Truncatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tursiops_Truncatus)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/870 "2021-04-22T22:12:17Z")

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I miss everything about EVE before Rattati and his manifesto destroyed the player driven sandbox and drove me to stop playing and paying for 6 monthly sub. Rattati did not just destroy the sandbox, he destroy well over a decade of my time and money invested in EVE. Rattati talk so much crap about making EVE more new player friendly so they will stick around but tells loyal cash paying customers, that disagree with him and his manifesto to quit playing EVE.

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**Author:** ![Vanislevagabond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vanislevagabond/32/269114_2.png) [@Vanislevagabond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vanislevagabond)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/871 "2021-04-22T23:00:04Z")

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Where are the asteroid belts and why are they gone?

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/872 "2021-04-23T00:04:20Z")

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Maybe the triglavians stole them as nobody was willing to pay the ransom. 🙃

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/873 "2021-05-04T02:14:41Z")

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I miss the hunting of other players alts while they hunted mine! No Concord back then. 😏 Who had the most info on the other fleet usually won.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/874 "2021-05-04T17:52:39Z")

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I miss being excited to loot a pirate bpc in a ded site. Since I can’t build them anymore its just more trash.

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**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/875 "2021-05-04T22:14:54Z")

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Alot of players who got “snatched” during their down time or break, were furious to be sent to Pocheven.

I have multiple stories on one channels where dozens of old timers came back and found everything was in Pocheven, or their stations thought safe were converted and turned into upwells and destroyed.

Many out of frustration just quit. This is one of the major problems that is now plaguing the game. And must be fixed.

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**Author:** ![Ahokastoh\_Uta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahokastoh_uta/32/269818_2.png) [@Ahokastoh\_Uta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahokastoh_Uta)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/876 "2021-05-04T22:31:33Z")

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from what i hear a class action lawsuit was attempting to be organized over this and other issues

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/877 "2021-05-04T22:44:58Z")

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> [@Ahokastoh\_Uta](#):
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> class action lawsuit

🤣 Just a rumor, never going to happen. You agree to the terms before you can log in.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/878 "2021-05-04T23:09:08Z")

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> [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](#):
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> their stations thought safe were converted and turned into upwells

whut?

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**Author:** ![Hidden\_Markov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hidden_markov/32/260260_2.png) [@Hidden\_Markov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hidden_Markov)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/879 "2021-05-05T00:04:47Z")

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I think someone on ccp was inspired by wow shadowlands. And copied WoW’s latest changes to make crafting a massive pita.

Halfway there so the tin foil fits. in wow alchemy never loses money. its the one crafting trade they haven’t jacked up.

In eve I get free daily potion…err… combat drug. And they made it easier than years past. So alchemy, err drug manufacturing has to be decent I gather. They are hard selling it for sure. I even learned biology on a char I had no desire too. just to clean these damn drugs out of the redemption window lol.

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**Author:** ![Cipher\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cipher_jones/32/258701_2.png) [@Cipher\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cipher_Jones)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/880 "2021-05-06T14:14:41Z")

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> [@Julius\_Scipio](#):
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> No Chinese macros

That seems a tad racist, as macros have been in the game since day one. You don’t mind the English ones because you speak English?

> [@Lara\_Agnon](#):
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> Here is the mail I got today:… cash grabbibing…

It was more expensive to play Eve then. $209 a year then vs $131.40 now, faux pas.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/881 "2021-05-06T15:55:43Z")

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eve players ???..

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**Author:** ![Zora\_e](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zora_e/32/312179_2.png) [@Zora\_e](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zora_e)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/882 "2021-05-06T15:59:34Z")

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A reliable chat server system. I’ve been doing eve for more than 12 years and this stuff below, is ridiculous. I had to log off because there was no way to talk to anyone with it going on, and it’s STILL going on as I type this…

[15:19:41] EVE System \> Connection to chat server lost  
[15:19:46] EVE System \> Reconnected to chat server

A whole lot more of that, every few seconds. A do miss a more stable chat system from previous times. Sure there were issues now and again, but this is more consistent, so yeah, I miss a stable chat system.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/883 "2021-05-06T18:03:19Z")

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> [@Cipher\_Jones](#):
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> as macros have been in the game since day one

Uh huh…  
Macros are a form of automation. And as such covered under botting.

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**Author:** ![Cipher\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cipher_jones/32/258701_2.png) [@Cipher\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cipher_Jones)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/884 "2021-05-06T21:35:00Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> Uh huh…  
> Macros are a form of automation. And as such covered under botting.

My point was that English macros predate Chinese macros and have never been dealt with. IDK why Chinese ones bother you enough to mention but others don’t, that’s all.

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