# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/907 "2021-05-09T09:09:00Z")
Can you name two mining ships that have been nerfed? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/908 "2021-05-09T09:30:55Z")
Rorqual & Hulk… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/909 "2021-05-09T09:31:35Z")
Why what happened to the Hulk? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/910 "2021-05-09T09:32:03Z")
Tank nerf, effective cargo nerf, during tiericide. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/911 "2021-05-09T09:32:39Z")
Really? When was that? Last one I remember was years ago, when I switched from Hulk to Skiff due to all the buffs. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/912 "2021-05-09T09:35:09Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Really? When was that? First round of tiericide, right when the skiff got it’s first round of buffs. To be fair it wasn’t much of a nerf, it lost maybe 10% tank. And it lost the ability to have a cargo expanded hold worth much as well. But yeah, that’s how far you have to reach for a second miner nerfed, and the Rorqual is still better than it was pre buff, it just got toned down a bit because they buffed it too much, so in principle I agree that miners didn’t get nerfed, ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/913 "2021-05-09T09:36:08Z")
So, like 7 years ago? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/914 "2021-05-09T09:37:31Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > like 7 years ago? Yeah something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/915 "2021-05-09T09:38:47Z")
Cool. Yeah, I think we are on the same sheet regard this situation 😉 ---
**Author:** ![eEeEeeeEeeeeEeeE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/32/268419_2.png) [@eEeEeeeEeeeeEeeE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/eEeEeeeEeeeeEeeE)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/916 "2021-05-10T22:30:39Z")
is it less than 30%? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/917 "2021-05-11T08:14:00Z")
D’ya think? ---
**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/918 "2021-05-11T18:25:24Z")
Miners are really kind of in a tight spot, “the you must go into high threat areas just to survive” mantra is rather annoying right now. I am not sure what CCP is thinking because Miners and Industry are the backbone of EVE online if you keep kicking them in the shins the whole thing crashes down. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/919 "2021-05-11T18:31:11Z")
> [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](#): > > Miners and Industry are the backbone of EVE online It’s amazing what people will think just to convince themselves that they’re relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/920 "2021-05-11T18:46:06Z")
> [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](#): > > “the you must go into high threat areas just to survive” mantra is rather annoying right now. Not only is it annoying, its total ■■■■■■■■ too and if you believe it, you are an idiot ---
**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/921 "2021-05-11T19:02:42Z")
> Blockquote Not only is it annoying, its total ■■■■■■■■ too and if you believe it, you are an idiot Its been really frustrating when they hit us after the invasion with resource drop, then actual resources in LS [you know how little kerite is in LS belts?] and WH were nerfed. Pocheven right now is the only place making out like bandits resource wise. And then the Industry “tweak” literally shin-kicked alot of low tier non-corp industrial players in the teeth. And on top of that I have to deal with mindless NPC mining fleets that gut mining belts leaving almost nothing for the players to mine in LS! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/922 "2021-05-11T19:11:23Z")
Id ask why you feel the need to chase after these alleged valuable minerals? Im a solo low tier one-person corp indutrial player. Cores destroyed my station network, but the other changes have been really good for me, and I dont chase the minerals ---
**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/923 "2021-05-11T19:14:23Z")
I want to build it myself! There is a sense of Minmatar Pride at stake if I have to buy my wares and I don’t know if they were made with slave labor as well! ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/924 "2021-05-11T19:16:21Z")
> [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](#): > > Minmatar Pride ![Data Laughing](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/c/dcdeabee6f9f8971b1abaf04599b9fa8a963cbc8.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/925 "2021-05-11T19:17:39Z")
But given what you are saying, it matters what you build? ---
**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/926 "2021-05-11T19:24:26Z")
True, but everything has been messed up. So one can’t build anymore and its more complicated and a problematic I was already struggling to get resources, and it just knocked me over and down. Its very aggravating and frustrating for new players. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=44) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=46)