# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/101 "2019-05-15T00:11:23Z")
I miss being able to use the old 2D scan probe system to create safe spots 100’s of AU away from anything, and far above or below the plane of the solar system. Now we have 3D probes, but are confined to the solar system plane. Signatures are never more than a few AU away from any planet. Years ago, all my deep safes were moved much closer inward. EVE got a lot smaller when that happened. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/102 "2019-05-15T03:14:16Z")
Nothing. And I mean NOTHING said “game on” like purple text in local. Nothing. …Nothing ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/516023_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/103 "2019-05-15T07:12:35Z")
I’ll make a thread asking for 10m donations from each, and I hope I get hundreds if not thousands of donations ---
**Author:** ![Balanah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balanah/32/134694_2.png) [@Balanah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balanah)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/104 "2019-05-16T00:29:25Z")
OP ECM ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/105 "2019-05-16T16:30:21Z")
I seem to remember when EVE was first released, when jumping through a gate your ship would land in some random spot in the destination solar system? Gate camps were set up on the inbound gate. But then when players invented insta-jump bookmarks, inbound gate camps were pointless, so CCP changed it so ships landed 15km from the outbound gate, and gate camps moved there. Or was that a dream? ---
**Author:** ![anon29945599](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@anon29945599](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/anon29945599)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/106 "2019-05-17T11:00:16Z")
The old Torpedo effects. It was cooler to use them, and scarier to be on the receiving end of them. ---
**Author:** ![Siebmordan\_Hur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siebmordan_hur/32/411383_2.png) [@Siebmordan\_Hur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siebmordan_Hur)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/107 "2019-05-17T11:05:58Z")
The old forums. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/108 "2019-05-17T15:38:01Z")
bonus room ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/109 "2019-05-17T16:50:58Z")
ezwal ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/110 "2019-05-19T23:51:15Z")
Interested Chribba. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/111 "2019-05-20T09:49:14Z")
Man, that made me laugh! 😃 > [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > \*ahem?! **My eyes are up here!** And this even more so! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/112 "2019-05-20T20:00:04Z")
I miss the BOB wars, too bad the goons wrecked it. ---
**Author:** ![Kerono\_Thalmor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kerono_thalmor/32/505504_2.png) [@Kerono\_Thalmor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kerono_Thalmor)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/113 "2019-05-21T00:34:49Z")
I miss Minmatar ships looking unfinished. They’re supposed to be junky, cobbled-together, made of things found in the bin, and now they’re basically just brown Caldari ships. I also miss the pre-F2P era. You had a two-week trial, three-week if you had a friend invite you, and beyond that, you had to pay to keep playing. It seems to me that it weeded out the non-serious players. I miss the old CCP. Somewhere along the line, they had their grimdark soul sucked out and replaced with casual garbage. There’s still a glimmer of hope for them, I think… I hope. When I started playing, it was my _dream_ to work at CCP and help make EVE more grimdark and awesome than it already was. But with CCP being the way it is today, especially now being owned by Pearl Abyss, even if I got a free college education and 72 of my own personal toothless 18-year-old hookers as a signing bonus, I wouldn’t do it. I couldn’t look at myself in the mirror having helped perpetuate the dumpster fire that is EVE today. I only pay in the hope that CCP will turn around, get their ■■■■ together, and make EVE great again, and I want to give them the chance to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/114 "2019-05-21T01:14:17Z")
You strike me as the sort I like to hang with at a party but I’d be nervous to have as a roommate. ---
**Author:** ![Zeb\_Pike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zeb_pike/32/267412_2.png) [@Zeb\_Pike](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zeb_Pike)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/115 "2019-05-21T06:14:16Z")
one shot torps to frigs and splash damage 🙂 that would render warp outs so u could lock em and fire on the next target 🙂 I miss not having capitals in the game and that UI lol ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/116 "2019-05-21T10:24:41Z")
In no particular order - buddy list that could be used to hunting specific targets - orbital strikes to aid dusties - a well-maintained lore site and in-game-world news in the launcher - evelopedia (yes I am crazy) - RR battleship furballs as a valid tactic for small-ish (20-ish people) fleets - pre-capital-ship lowsec pirates / antipirates - particular people who have quit ---
**Author:** ![Ian\_Morbius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ian_morbius/32/476592_2.png) [@Ian\_Morbius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ian_Morbius)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/118 "2019-05-21T16:51:42Z")
Miss community members: Agony Unleashed’s pvp classes, and roams. > **[Community Spotlight: Agony Unleashed | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/community-spotlight-agony-unleashed)** > > Getting into PvP can be a little bit like diving into a pool in the pitch black. Sure, there's a chance you'll perform an elegant dive and emerge in graceful fashion. But you also might accidentally crash head-first into the shallow end, miss and... Estel Arador Corp Services. **Free** jump clones! You know before it got bugged out, and every one now gets freebies. 😉 > **[Free Jump Clone Access Service Celebrates First Anniversary | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/free-jump-clone-access-service-celebrates-first-anniversary)** > > New Eden - Estel Arador Corp Services \[EACS\] recently celebrated its first year of providing free jump clone access to capsuleers from all over New Eden.During the year, EACS has helped provide over 4000 capsuleers with free jump clone access, "There... ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/119 "2019-05-21T20:04:35Z")
> [@Lesican](#): > > CCP devs in the Minmatar channel almost daily, running events to mess with the Amarr. Wolves of Pator forever. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/120 "2019-05-23T20:12:52Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > The current sterilization of the game along with all-in on F2p is concerning. I intend to be constructive in my opinion but lets take a look back…back…back…in time…time…time…to when Eve was better…better …better. Yep. I have to admit that I miss wardecs. And no, current situation is not exactly good. There are non-deccable corps with over 4K members… old system was a bit too much stacked against small entities but current one makes it so that there are huge entities that are invulnerable to any danger. ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/121 "2019-05-23T22:44:09Z")
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