# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/122 "2019-05-24T05:30:13Z")
> [@Kerono\_Thalmor](#): > > When I started playing, it was my _dream_ to work at CCP and help make EVE more grimdark and awesome than it already was. But with CCP being the way it is today, especially now being owned by Pearl Abyss, even if I got a free college education and 72 of my own personal toothless 18-year-old hookers as a signing bonus, I wouldn’t do it. I couldn’t look at myself in the mirror having helped perpetuate the dumpster fire that is EVE today. I only pay in the hope that CCP will turn around, get their ■■■■ together, and make EVE great again, and I want to give them the chance to do that. Similar situation. Back in 2011 (i believe) i was seriously planning to try to join CCP as developer. Now i rather stay away from company like this. ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Barker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicholas_barker/32/137434_2.png) [@Nicholas\_Barker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicholas_Barker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/123 "2019-05-24T13:58:00Z")
Going 24kms in a Crow ---
**Author:** ![Meditril](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meditril/32/378591_2.png) [@Meditril](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meditril)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/124 "2019-05-24T15:01:34Z")
I am missing the old StealthBombers with Cruise Missiles, Missle Percision Bonus, Regulär Cloak and Speed Bonus while Cloaked. Don‘t misunderstand me: I also like new Stealth Bombers, but in addition I would also like to have the old ones back as a new ship line. ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/125 "2019-05-24T17:28:22Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > - Get rid of the CSM popularity contest > - Regroup your product on the idea you are providing a service to a community (not a game). > - Look for ways to make building and maintaining communities easier. You managed to screw up the in game map 3 times since 05 and have completely screwed up the chat system but you just can’t seem to fix any of the old clunky corp code or come up with a way to boot an AFK fleet commander in a fleet of 400 people. > - For the love of god enough skins / hats crate already!! > - You are building a SPACE game …add some SPACE elements. Do you know that the majority of stars in the universe are in binary pairs? CSM should be a lottery, not an election. Automatic entry of all subbed players with max of 2 members from any corp/alliance. The trips should be all expenses paid as well. I completely agree with your second point. Chat system failures are the result of poor testing, and general failures during research phase of the project. xmpp has well documented issues in large environments, the results of which we are still dealing with. Nah, skins are cool just find a way to make it not feel like a cash grab. I’m all for some additional realism, but remember we are playing a game and reality isn’t necessarily the top priority. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/126 "2019-05-24T23:07:02Z")
This sort of attitude of CCP… …and Guard specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Ty\_Blackwood](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ty_blackwood/32/137683_2.png) [@Ty\_Blackwood](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ty_Blackwood)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/127 "2019-05-26T03:46:54Z")
Can flipping. All in one exploration fits. ---
**Author:** ![Leiron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leiron/32/177488_2.png) [@Leiron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leiron)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/128 "2019-05-26T05:03:32Z")
word - this deserves much LOVE… Guard… damn… ---
**Author:** ![Leiron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leiron/32/177488_2.png) [@Leiron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leiron)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/129 "2019-05-26T05:19:03Z")
I miss the original enchantment… Love has grown cold - can anyone else relate? Leiron - RDD USTZ - EST - MI - WWG1WGA - Birthplace Of The Republican Party… ---
**Author:** ![anon81145869](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@anon81145869](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/anon81145869)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/130 "2019-05-27T16:03:03Z")
i miss… - smuggling (why did they made drugs legal? like wtf happend?! MAKE DRUGS ILLEGAL AGAIN) - walking in stations / the captains quarter (sure it wasnt that much but it would be awesome if they did expand it into other space stations or starships and make it so that other people could decorate their stations/starships and meet eachother, add some minigames and emotes and all that social mmoRPG stuff^^) this feature could bring back alot of players to eve online! - also i miss that devs listen to their game communitys! i would love if ccp would add a ingame Voting System for future game updates/Patches so the community could decide in what direction eve should evolve! runescape does it right and it works really well! EDIT: - soon i will miss exploration too…. lol its so sad that i just made eve my main mmo and now i see that ccp starts to make it a boring casual junk game…. seems like i can search for a new mmo again 😕 this sucks!! ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Carebear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mama_carebear/32/413593_2.png) [@Mama\_Carebear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mama_Carebear)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/131 "2019-05-28T13:01:40Z")
I miss the scanning, i liked it back in Apocrypha (Grav sites and so…) - are there any good space MMOs (released)? ---
**Author:** ![CERA\_Elitist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cera_elitist/32/138304_2.png) [@CERA\_Elitist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CERA_Elitist)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/132 "2019-05-29T00:07:16Z")
I’m a big fan of the asymmetrical and completely alien nature of the older ship designs. The newer models are definitely cleaner, but they give the impression of a more technologically primitive civilization. Overall Eve just feels less mysterious. ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/133 "2019-05-29T00:46:51Z")
I agree, the older Scorpion was a lot more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/134 "2019-05-30T10:36:13Z")
> [@Mama\_Carebear](#): > > are there any good space MMOs (released)? No. Elite Dangerous is not good and Scam Citizen is your run off the mill jita scam ---
**Author:** ![Lumukanda\_Theleraese](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lumukanda_theleraese/32/432858_2.png) [@Lumukanda\_Theleraese](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lumukanda_Theleraese)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/135 "2019-05-30T11:27:15Z")
To be fair good is subjective. For me there are some good things about EvE, same in ED, and again of SC. ---
**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/136 "2019-05-30T14:50:14Z")
I really miss can flipping and and baiting can flippers. I also miss jacking orcas that people were using as large cans. I miss the small fights and roaming through lowsec and finding people doing things. Really wish there could be a roll back to classic eve say around 2010. I also miss expansions where people were actually excited to see the stuff that was coming out. There would always be a huge spike in people coming back to check it out. Now updates are approached with a sense of dread and fingers crossed that ccp won’t f\*\*\* the game up any more then they already have. ---
**Author:** ![Spc\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spc_one/32/399501_2.png) [@Spc\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spc_One)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/137 "2019-05-30T23:28:12Z")
As currenlty alpha state player, i miss doing level 4’s with my friends / corp. We normally used level 4 missions to have some fun and after level 4 missions we would go do some pvp. As level 4’s are no longer possible to do, we all just left the game. ---
**Author:** ![anon81145869](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@anon81145869](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/anon81145869)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/138 "2019-05-31T00:25:11Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > No. > > Elite Dangerous is not good and Scam Citizen is your run off the mill jita scam disagree elite dangerous is a pretty awesome game, the game world size is crazy (copy of our rl galaxy) and u will spent 100000years to explore it lol also u can land/drive on planets and soon u can walk around with ur character in spacestations and ur own ship!! #bring captains quarter back!! pls ccp!!! sadly elite dangerous isnt a real mmorpg like eve online! u can play it online on one big server but i think u see only 36players per zone, also u can play it solo or just with a few friends in ur own Galaxy/shard which sucks from a mmorpg view! star citizen is the dream game of most scifi lovers but im sure it will take some more years until its in beta or 1.0 only good scifi mmo atm is eve online! ---
**Author:** ![Abditus\_Cularius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abditus_cularius/32/138356_2.png) [@Abditus\_Cularius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abditus_Cularius)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/139 "2019-05-31T00:53:46Z")
Civil behavior. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/140 "2019-05-31T01:37:03Z")
> [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](#): > > Really wish there could be a roll back to classic eve say around 2010. As much as I wish that also, it cannot be. We already know to much. You can only give up your virginity once… ---
**Author:** ![Butt\_Cigar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/butt_cigar/32/131787_2.png) [@Butt\_Cigar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Butt_Cigar)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/141 "2019-05-31T06:23:40Z")
I miss logging in just to update the skill queue. I miss the patience and investment of knowing that it would take a lot of time before my character could do more advanced stuff. THIS was the most unique game-selling aspect of Eve for me. Skill injectors destroyed that. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=8)