# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1713 "2025-04-01T20:37:21Z")
Jr Dev: So I was meaning to ask you about Deep Space Transports, how do we do them? Sr Dev: _takes sip of shark sake from his sheep skull_ Yeah, yeah, so, they have a fleet hangar, yeah? So they’re like, a POS. Make them a POS with a Corporate Hangar Array but with a different model. Jr Dev: A POS? Like, what should it be anchored to? Sr Dev: The Pod! You just do the thing where you alias Transport Ships to Anchoring and then refill it with hidden starbase charters and fuel blocks during every downtime and so on. Jr Dev: …Alright. What about Mobile Tractor Units? Sr Dev: _sighs_ I guess they’re like a Deep Space Transport with a Tractor Beam fitted? Yeah. Make it have zero maximum speed and unbumpable, like, give it a hundred hidden rig slots with all Higgs or something. Jr Dev: What if someone tries to board it? Sr Dev: What? You put the man in. Jr Dev: What man? Sr Dev: The pilot man from the Scanner Probes, the POS man! ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1714 "2025-04-08T14:09:14Z")
Carriers actually being useful. Before FAX we had triage carriers with real drone bays not fighter tubes. ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1715 "2025-04-08T15:12:19Z")
ECM Burst on my Porpoise ☹ ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1716 "2025-04-08T15:59:53Z")
Honestly the latest restrictions for ecm burst don’t make sense to me. I feel the best use for one is slap it on an interceptor and fly it into the enemy to break up the fleet allowing your fleet time to deal with them before you get killed. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1717 "2025-04-08T16:00:04Z")
Fighters need to be reworked, the ‘squad’ idea is crap, the application mechanic bad and they are way too weak for their cost. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1718 "2025-04-08T16:01:46Z")
Seriously just bring carriers back to the glory days remove the fighter tubes ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1719 "2025-04-08T17:17:43Z")
Well, pure Dronecarriers might be too oppressive, given their power with 15 Sentries like in the old days and the current multiboxing meta. I mean, you know people will come with 10 of them all controlled by a single person, right? I would agree that Carriers should be able to launch a normal Set of Drones (up to 5 Heavies/Sentries) and get the same damage and HP boni like a droneboat for them, but these only work in the normal 60km Range, purely for self-defense against smaller craft. In Addition 1 Fighter per “Fighter Support Unit” and those fighters are made really strong and beefy, basically like a T2-fitted Cruiser für the T1 Variant and a T2 fitted NavyCruiser for the T2 Variant. Also Carriers cannot assist their Drones or Fighters to other ships nor can they be set to automatic “guard”. Drones have the auto-aggro mechanic like normal drones, Fighters need to be manually send to each target. For Fighters, different Types for each race exist: MWD/Longrange Setups with lower DPS, AB-sig/tank Types with more DPS and EWar Fighters, all stats based on the races T1/Navy Cruisers. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1720 "2025-04-08T17:19:15Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > I mean, you know people will come with 10 of them all controlled by a single person, right? This. And that’s what they are wanting. The good 'ole days of AFK carrier drone ratting 24/7… ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1721 "2025-04-08T17:25:05Z")
That sounds like a completely separate issue. Find a way to cull mass multiboxing instead of killing carriers because a few bad apples ruined the bunch. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1722 "2025-04-08T17:30:06Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > a **few** bad apples ![Data](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/7/2/87253d39a78b40e62ad3af3054d0c401e6f6bbfe.gif) ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1723 "2025-04-08T17:41:52Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > Find a way to cull mass multiboxing Way too late in the game for that. Multiboxers are the only thing keeping this game alive. We wouldn’t have half the daily number of players. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1724 "2025-04-08T18:47:52Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > Find a way to cull mass multiboxing Says the multiboxer ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1725 "2025-04-08T18:56:15Z")
will never hapen, and everyone knows it. CCP is addicted to the money coming in from massmultiboxers so heavly, that they lost the vision of creating an _attractive_ game. I am convinced that EVE could have a 100k logged-in players peak by now if CCP had done better design decisions in the past. 🤷‍♂️ However, once the ball is rolling downhill, it’s pretty hard to turn it around. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1726 "2025-04-08T18:59:42Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Way too late in the game for that. Multiboxers are the only thing keeping this game alive. We wouldn’t have half the daily number of players. I said mass multiboxing. Not the people using 2-3 accounts. I’m specifically speaking on the people using 5+ accounts. ---
**Author:** ![xCabalx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xcabalx/32/474671_2.png) [@xCabalx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xCabalx)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1727 "2025-04-09T05:36:17Z")
Tbh: WIS… if at least they could allow for an outside view from the station, kinda like a window, this would be cool. Especially in Jita. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1728 "2025-04-09T05:46:23Z")
So, just sit there and watch ships go by the window instead of actually playing the game? ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1729 "2025-04-09T08:14:34Z")
Same as sitting at a window in real life and watching cars drive by and people walking past It’s comforting and not something you do all day every day. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1730 "2025-04-09T10:11:45Z")
… And who wouldn’t want to have easy kills of AFK carriers? 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![xCabalx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xcabalx/32/474671_2.png) [@xCabalx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xCabalx)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1731 "2025-04-09T13:04:02Z")
Tf? Imagine people staying docked for whatever fking reason like market, take a break, fit or whatever. How about deleting to dock and erradicate the interior-graphics while being docked. Would this be more to your liking? ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1732 "2025-04-09T17:16:44Z")
Nope that would be horrible… No one wants to do that … [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=83) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755.md?page=85)