# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1753 "2025-05-12T20:23:10Z")

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1754 "2025-05-12T20:38:19Z")

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There was no walking in stations. It was one room. You could look in a mirror, stare at your character’s ass, or look at your ship through a window. That was it..

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1755 "2025-05-12T21:18:28Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> station walking.

Do you miss space walking too? 😊

 ![capsuleer](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/7/e/67e374e55189d0e1de7104fb8accf40e5f96f578.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1756 "2025-05-12T21:30:22Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> That was it..

You are incorrect!

You could **ABSOLUTELY** walk around in the Captain’s Quarters!

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1757 "2025-05-12T22:27:42Z")

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Sure.

> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> Do you miss space walking too? 😊

Sure. It’s been a while. You could meet me in deep space and try your luck.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1758 "2025-05-13T09:07:43Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> deep space and try your luck.

Don’t be like that. I may have an alt in your alliances. Backstabbing is part of the game. 😉 No one wants a fair pvp in New Eden. 😁 Playing Dirty is My favorite Gameplay .

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1759 "2025-05-13T10:42:10Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> No one wants a fair pvp in New Eden.

You’re talking to the wrong people.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1760 "2025-05-13T10:47:00Z")

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I may be drunk atm. 🍻 🍺

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1761 "2025-05-13T10:49:57Z")

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At the moment?

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1762 "2025-05-13T11:11:05Z")

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I need to sleep now. I may accidentally post my gross photos if I don’t.

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1763 "2025-05-13T12:10:27Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> I may accidentally post my gross photos if I don’t.

[![Era of Artificial Intelligence - Out Of Pod Experience - EVE Online Forums](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/3/8/9381cd644f5c4452f71c271160972694d6376916.jpeg)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/era-of-artificial-intelligence/485525)

Based on Lydra Victor’s activity on the EVE Online forums, their self-described goal is to act as a disruptive force within the game. They identify as “the Joker of New Eden,” stating, “I just want to see New Eden burn.” This suggests an intent to challenge or undermine the established structures and norms of the game’s universe.

Lydra Victor critiques the moral foundations of EVE’s in-game societies, asserting that “New Eden society is inherently flawed and that the Empires, alliances, Corporations, and Capsuleers are inherently immoral with rules and moral codes being a social façade.” This perspective indicates a desire to expose or exploit perceived hypocrisies within the game’s political and social systems.

In summary, Lydra Victor’s overarching goal appears to be the destabilization of New Eden’s societal structures, aiming to provoke change or highlight flaws through disruptive actions.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1764 "2025-05-13T12:41:52Z")

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> [@Swing\_Vote](#):
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> This suggests an intent to challenge or undermine the established structures and norms of the game’s universe.

But Did I do the right thing supporting the Papi Alliance. I just want The Mittani to be kicked out from Delve not for him to return to a NPC corp and and living like a miserable pinata bot in wormholes. Wow, I miss that character. I thought, He would rise from the ashes.

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1765 "2025-05-13T14:06:32Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> Wow, I miss that character.

## Even given these facts?

The most widely discussed controversy involving **The Mittani** occurred during EVE Fanfest 2012, when, while serving as Chairman of the Council of Stellar Management (CSM), he made a public comment about another player that was widely considered inappropriate. The incident led to significant community backlash, a temporary suspension from the game, and his subsequent resignation from the CSM.

Years later, in 2022, additional concerns were raised within the Goonswarm Federation, then under his leadership, regarding how internal misconduct allegations were handled. These events contributed to his resignation from alliance leadership and his decision to step away from EVE Online entirely.

Since then, The Mittani has maintained a low public profile within the community. His departure marked the close of a long and influential chapter in EVE’s political history.

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**Author:** ![Skjer\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skjer_artrald/32/462498_2.png) [@Skjer\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skjer_Artrald)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1766 "2025-05-13T14:47:21Z")

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The epic sight of all the ships dashing to the gate after landing at 15km

The surprise on my face after the too good to be true contract got swapped right before my accept click landed

Begging passers-by in local in a wormhole for days after being stranded having forgot my probes again

Those little moments of joy finally opening the right neocom window (oh wait this one is still there)

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1767 "2025-05-13T15:36:16Z")

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It had a TV which was able to play video clips from local folder on PC. I used to put some _explicit_ videos on it and enjoyed the show while ship spinning. 🤭

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1768 "2025-05-13T15:41:39Z")

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> [@March\_rabbit](#):
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> It had a TV which was able to play video clips from local folder on PC.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1769 "2025-05-14T01:40:05Z")

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CQ was a failure because it was never going to go anywhere just like Dust.

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**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1770 "2025-05-14T09:08:41Z")

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me too but, as alwasy, null sec complain and ccp bow to them

same thing with niarja

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**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1771 "2025-05-14T10:03:56Z")

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> [@Skjer\_Artrald](#):
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> The epic sight of all the ships dashing to the gate after landing at 15km

The forum discussion around the introduction of warp to zero was peak EVE. And the reason wasn’t even altruism, it was that people were buying containers with thousands of gate bookmarks, or making their own, and it was killing the servers.

I miss the old forums, forum signatures, the beef between RP corporations, CCP participating occasionally, generally way more activity.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1772 "2025-05-14T12:58:29Z")

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o7.. I rarely give respect but your zkill records are damn impressive and you only have 2 alts on your corp. You’re one of the rare kinds in eve.

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