# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![Ian\_Zhang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ian_zhang/32/511534_2.png) [@Ian\_Zhang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ian_Zhang)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1793 "2025-05-23T12:19:20Z")
My 16 friends. I taught them how to play, and they all AFKed. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1794 "2025-05-25T23:37:41Z")
triglavian invasion was a bold move ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1797 "2025-05-28T07:45:07Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > triglavian invasion+Scarcity was a bold move Fixed ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1798 "2025-05-28T14:38:46Z")
it dosn’t make you smart changing people words that fit your view ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1799 "2025-05-28T15:17:18Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > words that fit your view I can create narrative that against My view also.. 🙂 That will be fun.. 🥳 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1800 "2025-05-28T15:21:27Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > against My You’ll argue with yourself? Maybe you could set up two characters each with a different chatGPT to automate the process. Then let them loose on each other and see who wins the argument. 🤔 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1801 "2025-05-28T15:23:49Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > who wins the argument. I guess the woman A.I. will always win. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1802 "2025-05-28T15:25:07Z")
Call it Zaera. 🤔 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1803 "2025-05-28T16:04:27Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > woman A.I. will always win [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/d/1/cd1253d0c0433111f2c55ceebdb84f9051f890a1.jpeg "Marriage Logic Map of "SHE" is always "RIGHT"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW_YM_cFUNI) ---
**Author:** ![Shion\_Ishii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shion_ishii/32/389684_2.png) [@Shion\_Ishii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shion_Ishii)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1804 "2025-05-30T01:04:44Z")
Being able to complete the portrait during character creation instead of making a character and then seeing it’s not what it looked like in the CC. And having to wait 10 hours to try again for a character that has trained no kills and is 1 second old. It’s ridiculous. Be nice to be able to see how they’ll look in the Character Sheet too seeing as you’re forced to see it and all. ---
**Author:** ![Vekku\_Dradis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vekku_dradis/32/463196_2.png) [@Vekku\_Dradis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vekku_Dradis)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1805 "2025-05-30T02:55:53Z")
Still missing this ccp…and Guard… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/d/9dba09442ddba1799cdc9b397985f465838d8215.jpeg "Permaband - HTFU") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q) ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1806 "2025-05-30T02:58:14Z")
They need a forum version of HTFU… ---
**Author:** ![Ramiel\_Wayfarer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramiel_wayfarer/32/462436_2.png) [@Ramiel\_Wayfarer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramiel_Wayfarer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1807 "2025-05-31T10:39:22Z")
I started playing eve in 2007 and always miss the sound the warp disruptor made, That Wob Wob, Wob Wob sound., And my old corp mates and Circle Of Two alliance with gigX and all the Serbians up in Venal. ---
**Author:** ![Shion\_Ishii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shion_ishii/32/389684_2.png) [@Shion\_Ishii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shion_Ishii)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1808 "2025-06-02T21:57:21Z")
I miss the ship burning and smoking when it went into hull. The current thing feels lacking. It’s also wonky in that it changes on session change (upon jumping, docking, etc.) It makes it feel cheap. It lacks gravitas. ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1809 "2025-06-02T22:33:51Z")
Efficient GUI (in terms of time to get task completed using the GUI). Non laggy GUI (efficient in terms of computer resources spend and response time, ie from clicking a button, til new window is opened, completely rendered and all buttons active and ready to be clicked on). Cool GUI. Monochrome belong in 1970ies and earlier - unless specifically chosen by the user. And no a few sharply coloured malfunctioning alerts doesn’t make a cool coloured GUI. Captains Quarters. The true MMO experience, where you just log in, fly around a little and then play with the you run into - whom you possible never met before. (Opposed to the play with a small fixed group where you need to arrange timings and never positively interact with someone new, which Eve is turning into with forced null sec play in blocs.). Consistent game.Fx: - Ships not being fundamentally changed faster than you finish training them. - Ores / LP store contents etc not being constantly changed for devs to micromanage market. - Eve space is Eve space, no weird “Well here you can’t cloak”, “here you can’t warp” etc. I know missions always had the deadspace, but that seems an error to begin with, not something that should be enhanced, as people said when I was new “PvE in Eve was never really done, the game was nearly ready then the devs realized ‘whoops we should have some PvE too’”. The shortcuts originally introduced in haste, has since been enhanced instead of fixed to bring up quality of gameplay. Focus on MMO experience in game design, fx: - Number freedom. Ratting, missions and mining you can run any number you like, newer content is locked in numbers (mining number freedom has been reduced by changes to fleet boost, many people I talked to quit because of that one, there also seem to be a tendency for smaller m3 amounts in each mining site, further increasing number issues). - No timers. Without timers you can just pick up random people and explain anything needed as go on, with timers you need to 100% know before or don’t play. When you need to 100% know, you can only play with a small select group you know have already learned - which is the same experience as a small private hosted server, not an MMO. API keys. ESI is just stupid to work with compared to jut feeding the programs the old API keys - not to mention security issues of SSO. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1810 "2025-06-07T06:50:33Z")
I miss the old school FC’s. Less math, more brass! ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1811 "2025-06-10T13:22:42Z")
I miss the forums being balanced. Most of the reasonable players have either quit Eve or stopped posting here. Now it’s just a few radical people with a bunch of alts that dogpile any opposition. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1812 "2025-06-10T13:50:20Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > bunch of alts Indeed. Most of those “EVE is dying!”, “Everything is bad!”, “We need to change XYZ!”, “Thisandthat ruins the game!” - Topic OPs are clearly alts. Some even proven. Disgusting! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1813 "2025-06-10T14:27:26Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > I miss the forums being ~~balanced~~ in my favor. FTFY 😉 (Btw were the forums ever in your favor though?) > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Now it’s just a few radical people with a bunch of alts that dogpile any opposition. Oh `teh` irony. 🤔 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1814 "2025-06-10T15:14:01Z")
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