# What do you miss about Eve that is now gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 8, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755 "2019-05-08T18:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1979 "2026-04-24T22:53:02Z")
> [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](#): > > You got to spoon feed their brains now, in a sense I miss this in EVE, everybody used to be salty, but way more elegant about it, not this savage personal offenses all around. This is something I also miss. When I got my RL friend, who is now my corp leader to start playing eve I told him you can be as mean and rude as you want as long as you dress it up with language. Afterall, language is a weapon and it’s better to be fully armed than not armed at all. He got a little too aggressive with some of the crybabies on these forums and an isd decided he was a bad boy and gave him an account warning and said his presence is not enjoyable or conductive even though he was correct in the majority of his statements. Eve culture is changing and not for the best. There are countless arguments about how eve should not have safe spaces yet the isd’s on this forum as well as several players on this forum have decided that this forum is their safe space. They can attack and slander, lie and be completely full of feces, but the moment you threaten their concept of being perfectly safe in their wrong, victim mentality ideas you will be hanged. Even when all he did was defend himself, he got punished. Edit - In one of the threads he participated in before the isd decided what they decided, he spent probably 20 posts defending himself from lies, slander, ad hominem and logical fallacies. That was the straw that broke the isd back and got him the account warning with threats of banning him from the forums completely. You’re not allowed to defend yourself from any of those things, depending on who you are. The people wanting safe spaces are the most dangerous and corrosive people in any community. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1980 "2026-04-24T23:10:05Z")
If that is true then there will be a grey cloud hanging over Exordium ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1981 "2026-04-24T23:11:00Z")
There already is. Have you not seen the threads full of people crying about exordium? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1982 "2026-04-24T23:28:37Z")
Yes, though what I had read into this is that there will be a sinister aspect of Exordium /look closer at who are discussing this and who are supporting it but not necessarily who are saying negative things. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1983 "2026-04-24T23:33:12Z")
I had no intention of connecting my statement to exordium. There is a group of people that want what they call “safe space” but in reality is just somewhere that they are in complete control and will not tolerate any form of opposition or deviation from their thought process. They are the people that will go out of their way to punish others for “wrong think” and will weaponize every version and interpretation of rules to enforce their selected punishment. Unfortunately, some of those people are now forum isd’s and along with the others of the same thought line have corroded theses forums in selective ways. The very thing my response was directed at, which I am sure you understood when you made your post. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1984 "2026-04-24T23:40:44Z")
Yes, agree about most dangerous as it exists already but doesn’t change the core nature of EveOnline as every doctrine currently can be challenged via war. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1985 "2026-04-25T01:42:45Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > currently can be challenged via war. I have to disagree with you on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1986 "2026-04-25T02:41:00Z")
what doctrine can’t be challenged via war? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1987 "2026-04-25T05:51:38Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I have to disagree with you on this one. Large fleets of HS Orca’s. WHS setups. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > what doctrine can’t be challenged via war? Exordium ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1988 "2026-04-25T09:02:07Z")
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**Author:** ![Sissy\_Fuzz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sissy_fuzz/32/450972_2.png) [@Sissy\_Fuzz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sissy_Fuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1989 "2026-04-25T12:13:08Z")
You got a like, see? ---
**Author:** ![Sissy\_Fuzz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sissy_fuzz/32/450972_2.png) [@Sissy\_Fuzz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sissy_Fuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1990 "2026-04-25T12:34:05Z")
I miss a time where developers would under no circumstances introduce an invasive bell sound and useless announcement breaking immersion everytime I arrive somewhere. Why? It is unreal how CCP under new ownership \*\*\*\*\* things up. They don’t see it that way, EVE becomes more and more arcade like. I hate it. They could at least provide an option to turn it off. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1992 "2026-04-25T16:12:06Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Exordium exordium isnt a doctrine. a doctrine is a combat fleet setup. Ships and fits are made to fit said doctrines. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1993 "2026-04-25T16:12:28Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Money. That isnt a doctrine. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1994 "2026-04-25T16:38:37Z")
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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1995 "2026-04-25T16:54:28Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > A doctrine is a specific set of beliefs, principles, or teachings held and promoted by a particular group—such as religious, political, or military organizations—that serves as a framework for understanding and action > > Money. > > What do they do? Earn Money. Why do they do it? Money. What do they want? Money. What is their religion? Money. What do they worship? Money. This is the EVE forums and the topic was doctrines consisting of ships. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1996 "2026-04-25T16:55:41Z")
I see my account has also be hit with a shadow penalty of not being allowed to quote people and having to edit to re-add the quote. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1997 "2026-04-25T16:56:43Z")
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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1998 "2026-04-25T16:58:20Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > EveOnline as every doctrine currently can be challenged via war. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > > [@Glenduil](#): > > > > Money. > > That isnt a doctrine. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > This is the EVE forums and the topic was doctrines consisting of ships. > [@Glenduil](#): > > The word Doctrine is about beliefs and players run Eve. What I said was on topic. Many players in this game are all about Money. It rules their existence. > > You’ll have to be more specific if you want the topic to be restricted away from players. You can try as hard as you want but you know that isnt what was being asked. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1999 "2026-04-25T16:58:58Z")
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