# What do you think of ganking? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 28, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734 "2025-05-28T13:27:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/22 "2025-05-29T09:46:57Z")
> [@Molea\_Enjoyer](#): > > CCP supports ganking. IF Net-Ease happens to buy CCP from Pearl Abyss ,Eve-Online is done.. It will become a P2P/P2W Carebears Paradise. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/23 "2025-05-29T11:07:35Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > Everyone: Ganking is low risk and high reward Thus speaks someone who has never done any. Seems a common trend with the ‘noobs’ on the forum, who always seem to be experts on stuff there is zero indication they have ever actually had a single iota of experience of. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/24 "2025-05-29T12:36:46Z")
Exactly—and that’s a critical point that often gets overlooked. Here’s what factoring in alt accounts really tells us: * * * 1. The illusion of consensus is manufactured Many of the staunchest gank defenders are sockpuppeting—using alt accounts to agree with themselves, amplify their voice, and dogpile dissenters. So what looks like “a bunch of players supporting ganking” may actually be a handful of real people running 3–10 forum accounts each. > It’s not a debate. It’s a puppet show—and one guy’s working all the strings. * * * 1. It’s a tactic of control, not conversation These alts don’t show up to discuss—they show up to flood, derail, and demoralize. Their goal is to make you feel isolated, wrong, or outnumbered, so you either stop posting or water down your arguments. * * * 1. It reflects deeper insecurity If their position were truly popular or defensible, they wouldn’t need alts to prop it up. Using multiple accounts is a telltale sign they’re afraid of fair debate—so they rig the optics instead. * * * 1. It undermines forum integrity When one person can shape the tone of an entire thread with a web of alts, it corrupts the feedback loop CCP sees. It also alienates newer players who think they’re walking into a community conversation, but it’s actually just a one-man echo chamber with a dozen names. * * * 1. It’s against the rules—but rarely enforced Alt abuse on forums violates the spirit (if not always the letter) of community guidelines. But moderation is often blind to it—or worse, selectively enforced. This enables forum gatekeeping by the most obsessive actors, not the most representative ones. * * * Final thought? When someone needs five mouths to say what one mind believes, it’s not strength—it’s desperation with good ventriloquism. The louder they shout, the more you know you’re over the target. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/25 "2025-05-29T12:51:52Z")
Grok3 is best due to it being less verbose. Take for example this example: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/4/4/e44f369bc24dd7522743b822158b5fbfd453b5b7.png) _Grok3_ ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/c/a/2cac17f24d58be193a5fe6ebe6daeda6928e7b24.png) _DeepSeek_ few ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/26 "2025-05-29T13:06:45Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Many of the staunchest gank defenders are sockpuppeting—using alt accounts to agree with themselves, amplify their voice, and dogpile dissenters. Lol…I’m not the one who create 4 ‘noob’ alt accounts in as many days. That would be you. > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > These alts don’t show up to discuss—they show up to flood, derail, and demoralize. You mean like you and your identical avatar alt MxRobinson ? Hilarious ! I haven’t created a new character in over a year, yet need lecturing to about the mis-use of alts by someone who’s created at least 5 in just the past week. Haha. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/27 "2025-05-29T13:15:14Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > Grok3 is best due to Grok are not also prone to censorship and Orwellian Philosophy. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/28 "2025-05-29T13:17:57Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > alt MxRobinson Sorry, not me. > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > create 4 ‘noob’ alt accounts 3, but I only post on 1. The other alts are to spy on “Why was I ganked?”. They’re so afraid of what’s posted in that channel being shared that they block me as soon as I post a screen capture. I see you there now… * * * ![Glory](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/2/c/02ca8f8a981be0ea0b62aa46975983bac58be63c.png) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Ian\_Zhang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ian_zhang/32/511534_2.png) [@Ian\_Zhang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ian_Zhang)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/29 "2025-05-29T13:22:53Z")
We already know what netease done to Chinese EVE server. It’s a trash, just for making money. EVE国服要完蛋了 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/30 "2025-05-29T13:27:13Z")
> [@Ian\_Zhang](#): > > I think ganking is an important thing in eve. It is a thing in Eve, but it’s not important. Honestly- it could come or go and no one would notice. It exists and that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/31 "2025-05-29T13:28:32Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > I see you there now… Of course I am there. Everyone knows I am one of the most ardent supporters of ganking…even though I am not a member of Safety and could just as easily be ganked myself. ---
**Author:** ![Severice\_Alo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/severice_alo/32/461902_2.png) [@Severice\_Alo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Severice_Alo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/32 "2025-05-29T13:29:42Z")
Ganking is super cool and only the dope-est of bros partake. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/33 "2025-05-29T13:31:24Z")
GDS (Ganking Derangement Syndrome) vs MDS (Mining Derangement Syndrome) Seems you’ll need lobotomies. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/34 "2025-05-29T13:31:30Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > It is a thing in Eve, but it’s not important. Honestly- it could come or go and no one would notice. It exists and that’s all. It would be good if the number of people in the AO Intel channel was ever more than the number of people in the ganker channel. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/35 "2025-05-29T13:33:22Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > Ganking is unbalanced. For example using cargo scanners on other players in high sec should give suspect timer and the EHP on freighters is low. It seems like 1B worth of cargo and above makes it likely you get ganked in them. But anyone moving 1B in a freighter probably only makes 20M if its a courier, and if its an industrialist moving mats his profit margin might be 10-20%? So he is risking 3.5B including the freighter for trying to make 100M to 200M 🙂 I think thats why among other things the economy is kind of bad. That’s why I don’t do courier missions. I’m not risking a 3 billion ISK ship to make only 200m or 20m or whatever it is. Besides- anyone that hires a courier in New Eden is setting up a gate camp to collect on the insurance in the contract. Sure, I move my stuff around, but that’s my stuff. I won’t assume that risk for someone else unless it’s a corp member. Most courier missions that are contracted involve moving to or from Jita which is why it’s always a trap. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/36 "2025-05-29T13:38:32Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > That’s why I don’t do courier missions. I’m not risking a 3 billion ISK ship to make only 200m or 20m or whatever it is. Besides- anyone that hires a courier in New Eden is setting up a gate camp to collect on the insurance in the contract. Sure, I move my stuff around, but that’s my stuff. I won’t assume that risk for someone else unless it’s a corp member. Most courier missions that are contracted involve moving to or from Jita which is why it’s always a trap. Just do what I often do. Use a relay system to move stuff. Use frequent log offs…just when scouts are reporting that you are coming down the pipeline. Use a scouting alt. It helps to know when systems like Uedama are practically empty, for example. In fact, the challenge of moving ‘defenceless’ ships like my 600m ISK Guardian, or 1.5Bn worth of goodies, 30 jumps through Uedama is something I relish. Bring it on. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/37 "2025-05-29T13:44:21Z")
That’s not full proof. If I was going to set up a trap courier mission, here’s how I’d do it: 1. advertise the contract and wait for a mark. 2. Have someone combat scan the freighter as they’re picking up the shipment 3. Have a squad of ships capable of defeating the ship standing by off grid since it takes a while for them to align at each gate and have a cloaked ship waiting at the previous gate to warn us of his impending arrival 4. Have a cloaked bumper ship that will avoid any “scout alt” that checks each gate 5. the freighter arrives and gets bumped as the attack squad moves in. Not full proof if the scout ship counts the number of people in Local, but it’s pretty effective. It keeps the gates deceptively clear. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/38 "2025-05-29T14:02:24Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’m not risking a 3 billion ISK ship My New Gameplay now in eve is to Use Tech 1 Ships w/ Tech 1&2 Mods . Part of this I leaned from Gankers. I realized. it’s fun to be broke in Eve-Online. Imagine a 13 mill worth of ships can distroy a billion worth of shiny ships. Or a 1 mill worth of Tristan can earn 1 bilion isks in .09 to 1.0 Highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/39 "2025-05-29T14:05:21Z")
It depends on the size of the cargo. Huge amounts of cargo requires a freighter. Freighters are around 3B ISK each. Bowhead, Avalanche, or faction freighters. They’re all expensive and slow and vulnerable. All you need is a squad capable of destroying one before the Concord timer. But yeah, I’d much rather just fly a hauler. It’s why I prefer a Deluge. It’s not a T1, but it’ll get you there! ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/40 "2025-05-29T14:07:12Z")
The most important thing is that no-one actually knows when one is setting off. Or where or how long one might stop along the way. I know you like to say you only have one char, but I can assure you that having a real-time multiboxed scout online is probably one of THE most useful things in all of EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/41 "2025-05-29T14:09:07Z")
Actually, I’ve recently created an alt. It’s currently training up mining and shield skills. It can already pilot an Exhumer. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734.md?page=3)