# What do you think of ganking?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 28, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734 "2025-05-28T13:27:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/63 "2025-06-01T16:43:53Z")

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The way I see it, you can only efficiently anti-gank in two ways: Remote repair or bump the barge as hard as you can to throw them clear.

The remote repair has the largest chance of success as long as you’re present in one of those ships at the time of ganking.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/64 "2025-06-01T17:45:41Z")

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If only ganks were made less time-sensitive anti-ganking could be much more effective than today. 20 seconds is very little time to react and start killing gankers, imagine how much ganker dps an anti-ganker could stop if they had more time before CONCORD intervened?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/65 "2025-06-01T17:47:01Z")

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Nah. Gankers have plenty of time already. They don’t need more.

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/66 "2025-06-02T02:40:03Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> before CONCORD intervened?

Which is already too late.

Great idea…

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/67 "2025-06-02T03:21:40Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Law-Enforcement system _could_ attract players who want to play the “white knights

HS Campers like Thrashers and Tornados can be Gank if AG’s are serious. But they didn’t do it. Their +5.0 status are more important to them.. They can even Gank those ships that bumps freighters at jump gates

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/68 "2025-06-02T05:17:46Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> But they didn’t do it. Their +5.0 status are more important to them..

Thats exactly what I mean. A player who wants to go a “Law Enforcement Carreer” shouldn’t be forced to “gank” (aka using unlawful methods) to play his role.

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> you can only efficiently anti-gank in two ways: Remote repair or bump the barge as hard as you can to throw them clear.
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> The remote repair has the largest chance of success…

There are more ways. The point is: None of them is rewarding comparable to the profits gankers can make with their path of choice. The paradox in a system of organized Law Enforcement is: They do their job best if _nothing happens_. But thats why the Government simply _has to pay them_.  
EVE has no system of payment or reward for players who prevent ganks or hunt known gankers. But that would be an absolute _requirement_ for AG to work. No Police Force is ever _free_.

> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> You do get a killmail on the gankers. If this is combined with the lack of a killmail made by those gankers at the time shows you have a successful anti-gank killmail, or an unsuccesful one if there’s a related kill by those gankers against some poor hauler or miner.

You only get a killmail if you shoot the gankers _after_ they have already begun their attack (if you want to stay lawful). However thats the most inefficient way to AG at all, because that simply won’t safe most targets.

The most efficient way is “being present in numbers that make sure the gankers can’t bring their target down in time cost-efficiently” - which means the gankers simply won’t gank or move the area.  
You can achieve this by having overwhelming RemoteRep present or by having enough Damage to kill the Ganker’s ship long before CONCORD arrives, so they can’t deal damage to their target as calculated. The AGs did succeed, but they spent time, risked ships and gained nothing. That is the method used against DPS-Ganking, done with Cats/Coercers, Talos, Bombers etc… Again: Best Job is done if you made sure _nothing happened_. But EVE doesn’t reward that. Any Government has to, to make sure there are Police Officers doing the Job.

The other method against Tornado/Rupture/Thrasher Gankers who use alpha to kill targets is to permanently and repeatedly bump them away from their Gankspot. These ships usually have bad tracking and no Propmod, so as soon as you moved them only a few km out of spot or accelerated them to a significant speed, they simply can’t hit their targets well enough to punch through. They rely on good hits with their Artillery and bumping them ruins that. But again, AG spends time and gains nothing from that, even if he successfully prevents the ganks.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/69 "2025-06-02T05:30:54Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Thats exactly what I mean. A player who wants to go a “Law Enforcement Carreer” shouldn’t be forced to “gank” (aka using unlawful methods) to play his role.

Fair Point. Not all players can do a Dirty Roleplay..

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/70 "2025-06-02T05:31:06Z")

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Excellent summary.

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**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/71 "2025-06-02T13:06:40Z")

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> [@Bakster\_Kane](#):
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> Ganking is low risk and high reward

Ganking is closer to no risk than low risk. It has a cost but you never expect the catalyst to survive.

The only risk is when ganking is done for loot (and not just tears), someone else can steal the loot.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/72 "2025-06-02T13:46:56Z")

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Have you ganked anything?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/73 "2025-06-02T14:26:07Z")

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Oh here we go! Everyone tell the queen that we’re all too stupid to understand the intricate complexities of warping to fleet member in a disposable ship and pushing the F1 button after pre-heating your one weapon group! 😁

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/74 "2025-06-02T19:02:29Z")

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> [@Laubrani](#):
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> The only risk is when ganking is done for loot

Even then, there’s no risk. They get paid for each gank **PLUS SRP!**

#ZERORISK

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/75 "2025-06-02T22:40:19Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Everyone tell the queen that I’m too stupid to understand

Please don’t include others. 😇

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> intricate complexities of warping to fleet member

Even if miners know how Ganking works. They still die in the process. How that makes them? Do they have other ways to minimize Ganking in HS other than ranting, cursing and making threats?

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**Author:** ![Shion\_Ishii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shion_ishii/32/389684_2.png) [@Shion\_Ishii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shion_Ishii)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/76 "2025-06-02T23:17:39Z")

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Ganking of freights and the like are for loot.

Outside of that the reason is some people just like hurting other people. Hurt people want to hurt people. EVE attracts people with mental issue. Go figure. All the miner and explorer kills serve no other purpose. I include even non-hisec in this category because attacking ships that can’t fight back is pretty much the same thing regardless of sec rating. But I guess it gives them some threat. There would practically be none, especially for explorers, otherwise. At hostile NPC can show up to mining sites and belts.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/77 "2025-06-02T23:24:53Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> Even if miners know how Ganking works. They still die in the process.

Give me an example of a miner dying while ganking mining ships.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/78 "2025-06-02T23:51:12Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> As for Netflix, Everyone in Eve watches Netflix

Nah…they don’t. I’ve never done…though I do often have Youtube music playing.

People who are paying so little attention that they have time to watch Home & Away _deserve_ to get ganked.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/79 "2025-06-02T23:53:38Z")

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The oddest thing about ganking threads is that the biggest whiners are invariably people who have never been ganked.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/80 "2025-06-02T23:57:42Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Everyone tell the queen that we’re all too stupid

Oh, I’m aware…

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/81 "2025-06-03T01:59:10Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> the biggest whiners are invariably

**The gankers.**

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/82 "2025-06-03T04:44:29Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> Too bad Anti-Ganking was ruined. That’s no fun.

It was ruined by nerfs to ganking that antigankers along carebears wanted and cried for. They got what they wanted.

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