# What do you think of ganking? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 28, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734 "2025-05-28T13:27:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/167 "2025-07-09T05:20:31Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > What’s ‘polarizing’ about people doing PvP in a PvP game ? > **[Polarized Light Neutron Blaster | EVE Ref](https://everef.net/types/34278)** > > Particle blasters operate on a similar principle as the railgun except they fire a magnetically contained ball of subatomic particles. No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of pa 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Rebelde\_planet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rebelde_planet/32/453606_2.png) [@Rebelde\_planet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rebelde_planet)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/168 "2025-07-09T07:11:38Z")
I love watching gankers explode, podding them, looting them and salvaging the wrecks. They make the most wonderful fireworks. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/7/4/c74edb188b7ce17458c98c6578264a8af9398a54.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/0/b/b0bbd7903a0c6a01edbebf84a4c225b7c9fe986f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/169 "2025-07-09T09:20:20Z")
Even though they explode like fireworks, it also 😆dosd them a favour when you shorten their travel time. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/170 "2025-07-09T12:06:33Z")
> [@Antihrist\_Pripravnik](#): > > Polarizing means that it divides the community into two extreme opinions with very little middle ground Imho there is a huge amount of people on the “middle ground”, but they are mostly reasonable people who aren’t very vocal about their opinion and avoid being part of those trashtalk topics. It only _looks_ like the community is polarized about the issue. One of the reasons a “vote” about the topic isn’t going to achive much, as voting usually doesn’t give the individual a real chance to express their opinion and the wiggle room around it. It just offers a choice of pre-selected answers which all might fit more or less well. CCP btw. does send email surveys on a regular basis. And they have asked about ganking in the past if I am not mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![TiberianSun371AlexW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiberiansun371alexw/32/510819_2.png) [@TiberianSun371AlexW](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TiberianSun371AlexW)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/171 "2025-07-09T12:20:26Z")
I think we need some ganking and if it were removed the damage to the commodies market would be quite serve. There are a few things I don’t like about it. Namely ganking alts… if you gank someone in HS you can insulate yourself from consequences. Your main isn’t permaflashy. I was thinking a way to fix this would be to require ganking to be in a war decabable corp with X ISK in assets (to prevent throaway corps from doing it) but wouldn’t work for a few reasons. I honestly have no idea how to force gankers to use their mains without having side effects worse. The cures are worse than the disease ---
**Author:** ![Shion\_Ishii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shion_ishii/32/389684_2.png) [@Shion\_Ishii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shion_Ishii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/172 "2025-07-10T22:33:13Z")
> [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > When you play EVE, you are accepting the game mechanics, the social norms, and the rules imposed by CCP. Not true at all. When you walk outside your house you do not accept the life mechanics nor social norms of people who rob, rape and murder. It’s all part of life and could happen to anyone. Just like there are rude and inconsiderate people. You don’t accept that just because such behavior exists. You don’t accept negativity in any game either just because you play that game. And CCP has no rules explicitly forcing anyone to be contemptible. > [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > Some people choose to be sheep and others choose to be wolves. This is not indicative of any “mental issue”. > > That would be like saying a football player is a “psychopath” for tackling a member of the other team. It’s nothing like football. Tackling is an inherent part of football. Defense must occur for the game to be played. There is no inherent requirement to inconvenience a defenseless miner for no reason other that you get your jollies out of it. Terrible comparison. I think even you knew it was bad when you typed it. > [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > However, one could argue that people who play EVE but do **not** accept the game mechanics, the social norms, and the rules imposed by CCP and instead demand everyone and everything else change to suit their solipsistic solo playstyles… are suffering from a poor upbringing that led them to believe that they are the most special and important thing in the world. In other words: Karens. If you are blapping 2 day old miners doing their AIR Career Goals just to grief, you’re not a wolf. Don’t flatter yourself. Nor are miners sheep for doing something that’s actually critical to the wellbeing of the game. I’ll never understand the appeal, but if not for people who like mining EVE dies. And, yes, if you simply want to hurt someone for the sake of hurting them, you do have mental issues. That’s not to say you’re a threat to society (not all mental issues result in violence), but such a person is clearly expressing something from the safety of the game that they can’t or are too scared to do irl. Again, no wolves or sheep in EvE. Just different playstyles/interests. ---
**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/515929_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/173 "2025-07-10T22:52:39Z")
> [@Ian\_Zhang](#): > > There must be a reason for why it exist. Because morons walk down dark alleys and get mugged in real life. > [@Ian\_Zhang](#): > > Still feeling sorry for it… Also why would anyone “feel good” about mugging people? I know you didn’t really mug them, but it is a mental issue we all have called a conscience and principles. When I shoot someone either here or in the real world, I just have to cope with it. What’s done is done. Self monitoring, avoiding isolation, see your therapist, and be open with your friends. You make it sound more traumatic than spending 2 weeks avoiding sniper fire and hoping to God you never need draw your own weapon. Speaking from experience, you sound like you have a good moral conscience. It feels good to be back. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/174 "2025-07-11T00:06:29Z")
When you undock you are accepting the risks of undocking. Period. I might befriend someone. Have flown and fought on the same side. But if we are on the opposite sides of a conflict. I will do all I can to blow that player out of the sky. I expect that the other player is doing the same. I will do it with a song in my heart. If the other player is now a ganker. I am not going to make it personal. I will simply mark the toon he is using with a red. Again not going to take it personal. I accept that I can be blown out of the sky. I minimize the chances of getting caught out and becoming a pretty fireball in the sky as much as I can. The game promotes the PVP and I am more than willing to play along with it. Undocking and not knowing if the ship I am flying. Will be the ship that I dock at the end. Is just the risk I take and accept. But here is where I have a grief. Right now it is not the suicide gankers that are the major problem. An issue has become that for some is to abuse the wardec system. To legally gank. Sometimes even dissolving the corp to start another to get around the two week cool down period. I am not crying about how unfair it is. I am saying that this goes beyond what the wardec system was meant for. It is using an exploit of a system. That needs to be corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/175 "2025-07-11T10:07:43Z")
> [@Shion\_Ishii](#): > > And, yes, if you simply want to hurt someone for the sake of hurting them, you do have mental issues. Sheesh. Just reading your post…I cannot help but think that epithet belongs to those who confuse a _game_ with real life. Which one of your forum alts is it this time ?..as I notice yet another character that doesn’t seem to have undocked for quite some time. There’s something rather perverse about people whining about EVE…when the last time they logged in pterodactyls were still roaming the skies. ---
**Author:** ![Shion\_Ishii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shion_ishii/32/389684_2.png) [@Shion\_Ishii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shion_Ishii)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/176 "2025-07-11T12:54:21Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Sheesh. Just reading your post…I cannot help but think that epithet belongs to those who confuse a _game_ with real life. > > Which one of your forum alts is it this time ?..as I notice yet another character that doesn’t seem to have undocked for quite some time. There’s something rather perverse about people whining about EVE…when the last time they logged in pterodactyls were still roaming the skies. EVE isn’t like WOW or most MMO’s where you just respawn with all your stuff and can just continue without interruption. People had to spend time earning what they have, especially new players, and they don’t just return to what they were doing immediately. Depending on where they are their entire day could be ruined if they have to make a long trip back civilization to reship or (like many new players) they can’t afford to reship immediately. This makes EVE far more visceral and you typical hear people saying how PvP encounters get their hearts racing. That being said, you do hurt people in some way _in real life_ when you grief them. That dumb guy who had thousands in PLEX way back probably felt some kind of way about it when he lost it all. Yes, he was dumb. But those gankers really inflicted _real life_ anguish on him. Hiding behind “it’s just a game” doesn’t change this. If I gank you I fully understand that I am potentially causing that person _real life_ pain. I remember way back in the Everquest days how high level people would come to noob zones and grief new players. Even then that act causes real frustration. Human emotion doesn’t turn off just because it’s a game. And you know this. I’m not telling anyone what to do or not do. I’m not complaining about anything. I’m just stating a plain truth about the human condition. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/177 "2025-07-11T13:56:28Z")
> [@Shion\_Ishii](#): > > That being said, you do hurt people in some way _in real life_ when you grief them. Griefing is a very separate issue. One that is addressed in EULA. Ganking is an acceptable playstyle. Suicide ganking is something the Dev’s are OK with as long as the suicide ganker realizes the penalties and is OK with losing the ship in the process. To put it simply it is what keeps an industrialist in their virtual cheerios. The more ships blown up means ships, modules, and ammo is being bought. It helps fuel the economy. It keeps Isk from getting out of hand and inflation down to a dull roar. In this game you lose something while undocked. It is gone permanently. That is why the advice ‘Do not fly what you can not afford to lose’ is told to every new player and emphasized time and again. No one is harmed in RL in any way, shape, or form. It is understood by everyone that play, except you apparently, that losing ships is going to be something that is going to happen. That is not griefing. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/178 "2025-07-11T14:00:40Z")
> [@TiberianSun371AlexW](#): > > I think we need some ganking and if it were removed the damage to the commodies market would be quite serve. There are a few things I don’t like about it. Namely ganking alts… if you gank someone in HS you can insulate yourself from consequences. Your main isn’t permaflashy. I was thinking a way to fix this would be to require ganking to be in a war decabable corp with X ISK in assets (to prevent throaway corps from doing it) but wouldn’t work for a few reasons. I honestly have no idea how to force gankers to use their mains without having side effects worse. The cures are worse than the disease Do you realize that vast majority of gankers are ganking with mains? That we don’t do anything else is precisely because of the consequences of ganking. We aren’t stupid to mine or do level 4 missions in blinged marauder with 50 killrights on our head even if they are “dormant”. That basically forces us to gank nonstop and do nothing else. Especially when it take hours to find that one stupid player who is worth to gank and can be ganked. Gankers who are mining are mining with alts. The mining characters are alts, not the other way around. And if some ganker is doing PVE then he does it in low, null or wh where the consequences of ganking doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/179 "2025-07-11T14:59:25Z")
> [@Shion\_Ishii](#): > > I’m just stating a plain truth about the human condition. No you’re not. You are comparing a _game_ with real life…which is utterly silly. I’ve charged up a beach in Normandy and shot 400 Germans. The French police have yet to come and arrest me…as I was playing Medal Of Honour. If you are that psychologically involved that you can’t tell the difference between a game and real life then I suggest you stick to tiddlywinks and leave EVE for the adults. Though I suspect even there you’d probably come on and argue people were suffering PTSD if they lost a little plastic disk. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/180 "2025-07-11T15:53:07Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > involved [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/c/1/3c17a7f4b8538bd30a15fd0b31e851c2ad025fe7.jpeg "The Monopoly Rage - Kid gets angry playing monopoly") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnzxQQOPUiM) 👀 ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/181 "2025-07-11T18:59:01Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/c/1/3c17a7f4b8538bd30a15fd0b31e851c2ad025fe7.jpeg "The Monopoly Rage - Kid gets angry playing monopoly") > > [The Monopoly Rage - Kid gets angry playing monopoly](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnzxQQOPUiM) > > 👀 🤦 ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/182 "2025-07-11T19:10:00Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > I’ve charged up a beach in Normandy and shot 400 Germans. The French police have yet to come and arrest me…as I was playing Medal Of Honour. I did that in Call of Duty back in 1999 or the early 2000’s.. The Sûreté has yet to come knocking on my door. I keep expecting to see Peter Sellers to show up. 😜 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/183 "2025-07-11T19:14:24Z")
Wrong. He was stating a plain truth. Everthing he said was true. You pvpers cant dictate reactions. Never could. You never will. You all cannot dictate feelings. Never could. You never will. PvP will happen in PvP games, but you can’t dictate behavior. And you aren’t PvPing to be nice either. I’ve seen far too many posts made by PvPers in this game to believe that. The more you destroy, the more you congratulate yourselves. It’s not enough to destroy an empty hull. You dream of that kill where you get blue modules and billions in implants along with it. Just like PvP players love destroying ■■■■, PvE players hate having ■■■■ destroyed. You can’t dictate behavior so that will never change. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/184 "2025-07-11T19:27:05Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Wrong. He was stating a plain truth. Everthing he said was true. You pvpers cant dictate reactions. Never could. You never will. You all cannot dictate feelings. Never could. You never will. It’s a _game_. g…a…m…e. You can go to Defcon 1 every time you undock, if you like. I just put on some nice music and do my 45 jumps… ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/optimized/4X/a/e/2/ae2ac80979ffe3e4883debf68f32cd71ccbfed21_2_690x388.jpeg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/rSI5V02kMmY?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RDrSI5V02kMmY ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/185 "2025-07-11T19:30:55Z")
I… know… it’s… a… game… I purchased the game. I installed it. There is no question that this computer program is categorized as a game. That does not change anything I said. This being a game does not enable you or anyone else to dictate reactions or behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734/186 "2025-07-11T19:32:59Z")
Newsflash scooter.. I am not much on PVP.. I am more of a PVE player.. Mission running, Mining, and and making things. My feeling are not hurt nor am I even complaining that PVP, in a game that is primarily PVP in both scope and concept, happens. If your feeling are being hurt because some bad old player came along and made your ship into some pretty fireworks. There are really two ways you can go. One is simply grow up and realize this game is primarily about PVP. Losing ships is what happens and is going to continue to happen. Being sore over that is not going to change anything. Or two continue to cry about bad ole PVP’ers trying to make your ship into a lovely fireball. In which case as you youngsters like to say, Someone is going to drink your tears. Yeah, I am not being nice. As you do not seem to respond to civil conversation all that well. You get the sharp edge of my tongue. Also when you ever do decide to undock. Let me know cause I like to watch pretty fireworks and fireballs.. When it is all over and whomever blew your ship out of the sky. I promise I will sell you a new ship. Maybe some modules and ammo as well. But I want to be there to see it.. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-ganking/487734.md?page=10)