# What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 10, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274 "2023-01-10T14:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/463 "2023-01-31T18:53:25Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > …dragons aren’t real wait…_ **what!?** _ ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/9/c9dcc363e76724e5bd0b1769f34310f72eff05c1.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/464 "2023-01-31T21:15:41Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > People _ **love** _ my ideas. Do they love _ **your** _ ideas? That’s right, they _ **don’t.** _ Honey, I’ve been around. Can you at least realize know how many anti hisec-ganking idiots we’ve seen quest around the forums over the last 15 years ? Do you think CCP even cares about this issue by now ? Has it brought to their attention over such a long time, to act upon it, ever ? Are you so up your own arse to think _ **you** _ may somehow be the exception after all this time ? No. All they want is to continue milking the game as is, provide cool content updates, some tweaks and balances every now and then, and that’s it. They couldn’t care less about your ideas, nor the amont of likes you get per post… At best they probably get a good chuckle out of it … ^^ So settle down. Calm down, miner. Take the game as it comes and enjoy it despite its “flaws”. ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/465 "2023-01-31T21:51:35Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Oh wait, you don’t even _ **have** _ any ideas. All you have is following me around the forums and spamming baseless accusations of me being a troll, without providing a shred of evidence to back it up. Watch out. He’s gonna drop that 40k to destroy you 😃 > [@Verlyn](#): > > Honey, > > I’ve been around. Including faking a stock account 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/466 "2023-01-31T21:52:44Z")
> [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](#): > > Watch out. > > He’s gonna drop that 40k to destroy you 😃 Yeah, good luck breaking my Skiff’s tank. I’m not one of the _stupid_ miners, I actually _know how to play._ Gonna need a lot more than 40k to scare _me,_ bucko. ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/467 "2023-01-31T21:53:10Z")
I dunno man. He buys gold and stuff. He knows _people_. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/468 "2023-02-01T04:02:56Z")
Enough with the alt spam, post with your main… ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/469 "2023-02-01T04:10:34Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > But what if you could retain your apparel items and maybe SKINs too? 😏 😇 😊 I still wouldn’t want a server reset… Been here since 2008, spent way too much time acquiring all my skills and assets. Now if CCP was to do a server reset, I’d just uninstall the game… More than likely a lot of other players would probably do the same.. ---
**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/470 "2023-02-01T04:27:21Z")
> [@Daretqua](#): > > better protection of hi-sec That already exists with those sec status police things. Undocked from Amarr to do some anti-Amarrian warfare in Kamela (lots of juicy farmers to try to get higher on the Magnate leaderboard with). That scary blue dude alpha’d me for a little over 300 damage, and then put me on 1/4 hull while I tried to remaneuver into dock range. Almost lost 10 million ISK, and I was in a pretty agile frigate. I think this change is a pretty good idea, as it forces diversification and you can be really annoying to -2 players by disrupting them on a gate or something (you really only need a rookie ship and a T1 disruptor) and letting the NPCs go to town. Easy solo kill. ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/471 "2023-02-01T05:12:03Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Enough with the alt spam, post with your main… Ah. You’ve surrendered the field. Thank you sir 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/472 "2023-02-01T11:45:05Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > The loot from people they can catch is often the base income of any pirate corp. If you read the full comment, I considered pirates as well. If is legit, just gate defence adds little bit more risk for a pirate. It was ment more like against griefers, if they destroy because, they want to destroy another’s fun of game and don’t care about loot or role play. (Yes, I know too vague) ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/473 "2023-02-01T18:22:35Z")
> [@Daretqua](#): > > It was ment more like against griefers, if they destroy because, they want to destroy another’s fun of game and don’t care about loot or role play. > (Yes, I know too vague) Yet if they are using only in-game mechanics, how is that griefing? I realize why you want to use such a label. But if someone warps in, blaps you and your pod and never says a word, is that griefing? ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/474 "2023-02-02T10:16:54Z")
> [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](#): > > Yet if they are using only in-game mechanics, how is that griefing? > > I realize why you want to use such a label. But if someone warps in, blaps you and your pod and never says a word, is that griefing? Maybe griefing is nortthe best word for that. I see it more like player personal view, his motivation. If he/she is doing it only to make the game unpleasant fot other, then it is griefing (replace with any invective word). If it is done as part of role play, like pirate or so, than it is ok. ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/475 "2023-02-02T10:24:04Z")
> [@Daretqua](#): > > Maybe griefing is nortthe best word for that. > I see it more like player personal view, his motivation. > If he/she is doing it only to make the game unpleasant fot other, then it is griefing (replace with any invective word). > If it is done as part of role play, like pirate or so, than it is ok. And if they stay silent the whole time, using wholly in-game mechanics, you agree it cannot be griefing correct? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/476 "2023-02-02T10:32:41Z")
What if you are killing someone to help them have fun? ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/477 "2023-02-02T12:23:27Z")
I’m not exactly sure what you mean. It is complicated thema. If you start to attack someone again and again, always try to find him, even if he doesn’t agree with this kind of “fun”, than it could be considered griefing. Everything in-between is a gray area. Sure, it is more tolerated in eve than in other games. Anyway the original suggestion was about the better gate defense. I don’t want to decide what is and what is not griefing in this game. It only wanted to suggest something what could make the game better (just in my opinion). ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/478 "2023-02-02T12:29:21Z")
> [@Daretqua](#): > > If you start to attack someone again and again, always try to find him, even if he doesn’t agree with this kind of “fun”, than it could be considered griefing. In a PvP game, I’m not sure how PvP can ever be considered “griefing”. If you don’t consent, don’t play the game. By your definition, antigankers are griefers. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/479 "2023-02-02T13:33:33Z")
I’d like to propose a brand new and easier NPE for noobs… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/1/a/01a6d68002037be4990935cef9a83c6ed970a1e7.jpeg "Crib Goch Knife Edge") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n86W5jMiV3Y) ---
**Author:** ![Daretqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daretqua/32/443180_2.png) [@Daretqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daretqua)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/480 "2023-02-02T13:41:56Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > If you don’t consent, don’t play the game. > > By your definition, antigankers are griefers No 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/481 "2023-02-02T14:11:59Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I’d like to propose a brand new and easier NPE for noobs… What, no snipers? That’s not EVE! ---
**Author:** ![Erkkinnen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erkkinnen/32/391080_2.png) [@Erkkinnen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erkkinnen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/482 "2023-02-02T14:20:52Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > By your definition, antigankers are griefers. _ **Potential** _ griefers since this procedure has a near 100% failure rate. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274.md?page=25)