# What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 10, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274 "2023-01-10T14:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ha_kar_ma_gor/32/352552_2.png) [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ha_Kar_Ma_Gor)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/583 "2023-02-15T02:02:30Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I can’t seem to find the quote from Hilmar that said, “eve grew to fast”? > > Thought I had it saved… If you ever find it let us know. It sounds like a gem. And the only way EVE would have truly griwn too fast is if it reached 1 million daily active users. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/584 "2023-02-15T02:36:09Z")
> [@Mina\_Tsunami](#): > > End the prohibition on highsec pvp. Remove the terrible BLOB always wins forced fight that is called… > > WAR HQS WAR HQS WAR HQS WAR HQS WAR HQS WAR HQS WAR HQS WAR HQS WAR HQS But if they do that, then how will super-groups be able to force wars to end by blobbing structures, thereby preventing much smaller groups from trying to PvP against them? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/585 "2023-02-15T04:03:47Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Where would the game be now? Dunno, but would be having alot of fun right now with wardecs. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/0/b/80b251ef588d35d61df25d39996309296c5a9977.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bladewise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bladewise/32/394387_2.png) [@Bladewise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bladewise)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/586 "2023-02-15T05:29:21Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Where would the game be now? One things for sure. We’d still have a suspect community. You know, what used to be the entry to PvP. Sure did retain a lot of new bros. I was one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/587 "2023-02-15T05:55:45Z")
The fact that the new Faction Warfare Leaderboard tracks “Victory Points” that “players” with no zKill histories farm using stabbed ships with no weapons fitted to them for the sole purpose of grinding ISK, should tell you _ **everything** _ you need to know about the place of PvP in EVE’s contemporary development hierarchy. The game is evolving, and you’re getting left behind because you insist on remaining an evolutionary holdout whose competitive gamer genes are about to be depreciated into oblivion. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/588 "2023-02-15T13:03:24Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > But if they do that, then how will super-groups be able to force wars to end by blobbing structures, thereby preventing much smaller groups from trying to PvP against them? It’s a really disgusting idea to even think about allowing guerilla tactics and assymetriacal warfare against larger and much more powerful opponents in a badass dark harsh evil sci-fi pvp game. It’s not really EVE if the biggest blob has no option to ensure victory by bringing just enough F1 grunts. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/589 "2023-02-15T14:54:33Z")
PvP is griefplay. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/590 "2023-02-15T17:42:29Z")
Today Eve needs excitement, drama, conflict. Things that enforce stability and the status quo (even if well intentioned) are going to lead to boredom and stagnation. ---
**Author:** ![Bladewise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bladewise/32/394387_2.png) [@Bladewise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bladewise)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/591 "2023-02-15T19:13:24Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The fact that the new Faction Warfare Leaderboard tracks “Victory Points” that “players” with no zKill histories farm using stabbed ships with no weapons fitted to them for the sole purpose of grinding ISK, should tell you _ **everything** _ you need to know about the place of PvP in EVE’s contemporary development hierarchy. > [@Bladewise](#): > > Eve’s target market (hardcore-survival-sandbox-PvP crowd) has been nerfed out of the game so when a new player comes who actually might stick around (hardcore-survival-sandbox-PvP player), they’re met with a giant carebear-hand-holding simulator and quit in disgust. Yup, doomed ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/592 "2023-02-15T20:32:08Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Quoting yourself? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/a/5/7a51b45433e621cb2f0140b8f4ed82f6bdf6793f.webp) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/593 "2023-02-15T22:44:17Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > getting left behind I left the game behind. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > competitive gamer genes are about to be depreciated into oblivion. I wonder if the dinosaurs could see the asteroid in the night sky coming their way? 🤔 I just like the speculation of what might have happened. ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/594 "2023-02-16T11:11:32Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > So, after almost 600 replies, is already clear what the _last golden age_ was and what the _main differences_ were to what we have now? Well, as they say, “one man’s _golden age_ is another man’s _literal 1984_” or whatever. But in several past years CCP managed to displease almost everyone and THAT is an achievement I cannot but commend! So in this case the recipe for a golden age would be “Whatever it is you’re doing JUST STOP” ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/595 "2023-02-16T14:09:27Z")
> [@Azalais\_Selenica](#): > > But in several past years CCP managed to displease almost everyone and THAT is an achievement I cannot but commend! Gotta say that’s a pretty accurate description… ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/596 "2023-02-16T17:58:12Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I’d sooner debate with the old lady who wanders down the street shouting at the lamp posts. She flies a Drake. –Gadget Knows ---
**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/515929_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/597 "2023-02-16T19:48:46Z")
A new UI to replace the new Photon UI might be a good start at this point. I know people want the old UI back, I am pretty sure they destroyed all the backup copies. This game is 90% UI, how did the developers miss the memo? New Golden Age of Eve is looking a bit dim for now. So maybe we should all take a break for a month and see what is here to replace it in April? I am seriously looking into other options for my gaming entertainment. If I rack up my character with skills to learn, I would come back in a month to a better character at least. The UI should be 100% user friendly and sadly, this is not it. Until we meet again, have fun discussing the future of Eve Online. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/598 "2023-02-16T23:44:32Z")
Okay here me out as this one will work well with many Capsuleers. Plex, first let’s ask ourself what is plex and does it help transfer and or deliver pixels to Eve Online’s Capsuleers? My understanding is that plex is exacty that means and it’s value is what we say it is based on it’s ability to be exchanged at what ever rate. Proposal to have plex issued to a subscriber that equals the exact same value of subscription cost. Plex would then be generated at an alarming rate to make way for input broadcasting multiboxing. The price of plex will change with such though we together can and will adjust into the New Eden’s golden age sweet spot. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/599 "2023-02-17T01:54:46Z")
You drink too much! 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/600 "2023-02-17T02:59:19Z")
We can not drink the spirts in New Eden, we can only loot it and sell it, I have tried. / > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > You drink too much! ![vb](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/3/b/63b4e598e42dd8dce4d90cef53dfe510cea71d01.jpeg) Incorrect I do not drink and post too much // I agree my grammar is a tad off but where is the forum police when we need them. My main reason for showing such was due to your comment. _You could have just said i’m too Australian._ ---
**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/601 "2023-02-17T14:15:49Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > We can not drink the spirts in New Eden, we can only loot it and sell it, I have tried. > / > > > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > > > You drink too much! > > ![vb](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/3/b/63b4e598e42dd8dce4d90cef53dfe510cea71d01.jpeg) > > Incorrect I do not drink and post too much > > // > I agree my grammar is a tad off but where is the forum police when we need them. > > My main reason for showing such was due to your comment. _You could have just said i’m too Australian._ That looks like it would make great Merch! What if you could use codes from in game acquired items, to order from an exclusive catalog to buy real items? Such as an Eve online brand of beer! It’s the ultimate immersion crossover. Drinking beer my character acquired by purchasing from the LP store or something, but really drinking it. I’m pretty sure I would still have to pay real money to order it, but it might connect to the game play experience somehow. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/602 "2023-02-17T16:15:31Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Plex, first let’s ask ourself what is plex and does it help transfer and or deliver pixels to Eve Online’s Capsuleers? Yes! Finally! I need more pixels delivered by my plex… what? > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > My main reason for showing such was due to your comment. _You could have just said i’m too Australian._ Australian? I thought they spoke English or something in Australia? Ok ok let me stop LMAO and get serious… attempting to decipher the code you gave us. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Proposal to have plex issued to a subscriber that equals the exact same value of subscription cost. Plex would then be generated at an alarming rate to make way for input broadcasting multiboxing. The price of plex will change with such though we together can and will adjust into the New Eden’s golden age sweet spot. Assume I understand this part correctly, you propose that a person who pays for an Omega clone account for $20 USD ($29 Australian Dingo Kidneys) should get the same amount in Plex as well? Those are called “bundles” and they have one there called the Platinum Starter for $100 USD ($146 Vegemite Sandwiches and a round of drinks with Elle Macpherson) with 90 days Omega, 1500 PLEX, MCT, 650,000 Skill Points, five SKINS, and something else they don’t want to tell us. Damn, I should apply to be ambassador to Australia. Just think of the damage I could do. I still say we need playable aliens or robots. In the future, there will be robots. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274.md?page=29) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274.md?page=31)