# What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age

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**Created:** [January 10, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274 "2023-01-10T14:11:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/603 "2023-02-17T18:20:12Z")

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> [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](#):
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> Such as an Eve online brand of beer!

CCP do not condone drinking and flying.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/4/c/a4c9c82d8fb5901baf237095870814342d9455c4.gif)

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/604 "2023-02-17T21:47:16Z")

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What would Bring Eve in to a new Golden Age.

Simple

CCP: Needs to stop Nerfing eveybodys chosen profession and the Time and Effort they spent trying to Find a gameplay and style they liked , and spent years training for.

CCP: Needs to Understand that all people dont like PVP, in fact some hate it, and they hate the fact CCP keeps pushing There own agenda, This is meant to be a Sandbox. (CCP Look up the Word Sandbox)

CCP: Needs to stop changing things for the sake of it, Its causes nothing but resentment from the players. (If things work and you want to try something new, then do as you did with the map, Give people the option ).

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/605 "2023-02-17T21:50:20Z")

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> [@Talic](#):
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> This is meant to be a Sandbox.

If you truly believed that, you wouldn’t be whining about PvP.

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/606 "2023-02-17T21:52:34Z")

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Whos whining about PVP. Im Talking about Choice. Being able to live how you want in a so called sandbox.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/607 "2023-02-17T21:53:56Z")

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Wow, I never thought that the person I “made interested in killing again” would start complaining about PvP in a PvP video game like this.

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/608 "2023-02-17T21:55:44Z")

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Again Im not complaining, Where do i complain. I personally like a bit of PVP, But a lot of people dont, and I think they should be able to play the game style they like without being forced into a corner.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/609 "2023-02-17T21:55:56Z")

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> [@Talic](#):
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> Whos whining

You are.

> [@Talic](#):
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> Being able to live how you want in a so called sandbox.

In a sandbox, other players decide if you live.

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/610 "2023-02-17T21:57:58Z")

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Yeh, Sorry no, CCP have manipulated the sandbox for years, trying to force players in to PVP. (Because thats what they thought people wanted) Thats why we lost so many people.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/611 "2023-02-17T22:00:26Z")

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EVE Online is for people who like open-world PvP. For others, there are many non-PvP games to choose from.

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/612 "2023-02-17T22:02:43Z")

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Again this attitude is why our player base is a third of what it was. EVE was never meant to be a PVP only game. It got that way because of the most vocal players. not because of the majority. otherwise we would have 3 time the player count logging on.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/613 "2023-02-17T22:03:11Z")

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> [@Talic](#):
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> EVE was never meant to be a PVP only game. It got that way because of the most vocal players.

Source?

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/614 "2023-02-17T22:05:14Z")

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ok check CCP definition of eve in 2003 to 2012. when we had 50,000 plus players regularly. Im not going to fact check for you its all out there on google.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/615 "2023-02-17T22:08:52Z")

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You are wrong.

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/616 "2023-02-17T22:09:35Z")

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Simple Prove im wrong , and i will concide.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/617 "2023-02-17T22:10:36Z")

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I just said you are wrong, and I’m Aiko.

That proves you are wrong.

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/618 "2023-02-17T22:11:09Z")

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Yep I wish things were so simple lol.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/619 "2023-02-17T22:11:47Z")

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That’s right, killer, you don’t have a source. Like all other “killers” who are “interested in killing again,” you just say stuff that sounds pleasant to your own ears.

I have a source though:

> **[Interview: Evolution and Risk: CCP on the Freedoms of EVE Online](https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/interview-evolution-and-risk-ccp-on-the-freedoms-of-eve-online)**
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> Gamasutra has a chat with EVE Online Senior Producer Nathan Richardsson to discuss the relative success of this open-ended and sometimes ruthless MMOG wh

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/620 "2023-02-17T22:12:39Z")

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Reee, it’s a sandbox and I choose to play without other players!

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**Author:** ![Talic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/talic/32/412846_2.png) [@Talic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Talic)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/621 "2023-02-17T22:28:14Z")

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[EVE Online is not a PVP game - INN](https://imperium.news/eve-online-is-not-a-pvp-game/#:~:text=EVE%20Online%20is%20not%20a%20PVP%20game.,never%20been%20a%20PVP%20game).

Its not a good quote i will post the original CCP link when i find it, it has been 20 years lol.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/622 "2023-02-17T22:32:37Z")

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So I link you a developer interview from 2005, and you link me an opinion piece from a player blog written by some null-sec krab? That’s your “source”?

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/a/e/3aeb0b56ce479b9ac00446776f57074811fc568a.jpeg "Borat - You are a retard?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8zVhl1SS60)

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