# What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 10, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274 "2023-01-10T14:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/846 "2023-04-08T02:45:29Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > What are you going to do when Eve is gone? Move on and work hard to drive people out of some other game? I plan to gank coconut runners on Rust Isle. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/847 "2023-04-08T05:29:09Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > Please read what I wrote before commenting. I read what you wrote, you are gatekeeping what others must find fun and branding people who won’t bow to you as “toxic”. It’s pretty simple and you are hardly the first. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > Making Eve more fun for **everyone** would mean more paid subscriptions. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/b/7/4b7b81e16e00bc145c2c46e3c72c4f042c33177e.gif) “Everyone” means EVERYONE…even people playing in ways within the rules but without your personal approval. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > It’s people like you who make this a toxic game… You probably think you couldn’t possibly be one of those who are actually toxic to this game…don’t you? > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > …then keep on keeping on doing what you are doing: coming here to toss insults at people… Are you possibly mistaking someone not polishing your apple to be insulting you? > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > …people who love this game… You? You don’t seem to even _like_ this game much less love it. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > I am not a paying customer now, and have not been one for a long time So you “love this game”…right?..'k… ccp barely listens to their paying customers, what makes you think they’ll listen to you? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/848 "2023-04-08T05:49:02Z")
None of these boomer doomers with Murtaugh Syndrome should be playing competitive multiplayer games _anyway._ It’s so obvious that they don’t enjoy a single second of it, and are only doing it because there’s _literally_ nothing left with which to fill their empty days. Don’t need to work anymore, too unsocial to join the local hobby club, kids grown up and busy, dog’s dead, wife left years ago to chain smoke and spin slots in Atlantic City. So now they’re just trying to recapture their barely-remembered youth by reliving their mid-life crisis days. Seriously, have you ever heard them say a _single_ positive thing about EVE? Yet for some reason, they hold on to this game with a death grip, like barnacles permanently stuck to the keel of a rusty fishing boat. It’s okay to let go, our venerable boomer friends. Let go, and come toward the light: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/8/8/788ecf833f6a2fe37f6eb2c184ce9042bada275f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/849 "2023-04-08T06:12:47Z")
And I thought the sheep count would be up? It was a few wks ago? ---
**Author:** ![Machinegunner\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/machinegunner_bob/32/373612_2.png) [@Machinegunner\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Machinegunner_Bob)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/850 "2023-04-08T09:30:38Z")
Or just abandon the game at all. ---
**Author:** ![En\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/en_carta/32/357905_2.png) [@En\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/En_Carta)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/851 "2023-04-08T21:08:04Z")
There is a VERY simply solution to the “Golden Age” problem… Bring back the Small POS that could be anchored & un-anchored - CONFIGURED AND RECONFIGURED according to market demands - and all within an acceptable playing time window, Citadels were the single biggest demise of New Eden’s community… they are simply NOT flexible enough. My 2p. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/852 "2023-04-08T21:43:41Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > there has been a faction of players who insist that this game universe somehow mimics (or should mimic) real life You don’t get it do you? EVE is a sandbox. If you want to mine in peace with no PvP, play Elite Dangerous in SOLO mode and offcourse YOU can play for free. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/853 "2023-04-09T00:31:06Z")
> [@En\_Carta](#): > > Citadels were the single biggest demise of New Eden’s community… they are simply NOT flexible enough. Flexibility is the the smallest of their problems. Someone really had to crunch his brain cells to make them as bad as humanly possible to come out with _this_ result of a structure design. They are so bad, it is even a respectable achievement as for sure it wasn’t easy to come up with all these horrible ideas at once. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/854 "2023-04-09T01:04:57Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > Rude people like you make me laugh, because you would NEVER talk to someone in RL the way you do on the internet. And you would say to someone in RL “Rude people like you make me laugh.” 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/855 "2023-04-09T01:15:41Z")
> [@En\_Carta](#): > > There is a VERY simply solution to the “Golden Age” problem… Bring back the old war-dec mechanic, and remove all player owned structures from highsec. Oh, and the locator agents can now eject someone from the station, even if they are off line. Oh, and you can pay monies, not iskies, real monies, to put a limited engagement flag on them. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/856 "2023-04-09T02:21:10Z")
Tier 1 hulls (including battleships and dreads) being half their current price. ---
**Author:** ![Bonnie\_Peebles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bonnie_peebles/32/407537_2.png) [@Bonnie\_Peebles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bonnie_Peebles)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/857 "2023-04-10T09:51:41Z")
Lower sub price and Omber back to high-sec belts so I can make my own ammo. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/858 "2023-04-10T09:55:06Z")
Free Omega for everyone and infinite spod in Highsec ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/859 "2023-04-10T10:22:11Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > Rude people You mean like folks who start playing a game to then demand the game’s core identity gets changed to suit them personally and by doing so invalidating other’s play styles that ARE in line with the base premise of the game. Yeah, those people are pretty rude and selfish. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/860 "2023-04-10T11:01:11Z")
Still debating this topic after all this time? I understand they use to allow people to exit the pods at the stations and walk about. I don’t see that effect would help a lot other than to allow the 12 year-olds to masturbate to their 3D models. They probably do that enough without such a feature. However – If it wasn’t for the fact the game lore is already set in stone, I would make it possible to get out and walk about my ship during long flights across the vast regions of space. Multitude of the television space shows did this; Star Trek, Firefly, Andromeda, Dark Matter, Farscape, etc… Why? Because it would be a boring series to watch a ship fly from point to point and have nothing else to do. It would be akin to watching the world’s longest commercial break. They explored their ships, talked to crew members, and solved other problems. If it wasn’t for the fact, this game already has ships with only one person aboard in a vat of goo, you could be talking to the engineer about the humming noise coming from your engines and helping them fix them in a mini game. Or talking to the ship’s doctor about his current alcoholism and playing a mini game to keep him away from the booze. These mini games could have been used as skill point buffs when you win. As it stands now, it is almost a must to babysit your ship, and never use the autopilot, if you plan to get there in one piece. In the TV series, the captain would get ample notice of an impeding attack or at least have competent crew members on the bridge to handle it while they raced there. In the end, it doesn’t matter anymore. They built the game, released the game, the game is not going to change for the better. As I stated in this thread already, all of these online games get one shot at the brass ring, afterwards it is all downhill from there. Some games attempt sequels and they often fail on launch, other (e.g. Overwatch) attempt the 2.0 version and they fail to change enough of the core game to matter. All too often too much change and the veterans will up and leave the game. This is the fate of all MMO’s and PvP games online, this Eve Online and it will never see a brighter future ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/861 "2023-04-10T13:13:16Z")
The best solution to ‘golden ages’ is to remove these… ![rose-colored-glasses-10853680](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/4/a/44a07b24dac6982b5740408ee2b7dfc32eb31edc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/862 "2023-04-10T13:55:24Z")
> [@Saladinae](#): > > being half their current price. Mum not let you use her credit card? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/863 "2023-04-10T14:01:41Z")
> [@John\_Rochard](#): > > Multitude of the television space shows did this; Star Trek, Firefly, Andromeda, Dark Matter, Farscape, etc EVE is still alive and kicking after 20 years. You are in the wrong game, head on over to Scam Citizen if you want to walk around in your ship which I will be happy to blow up for you, relieving you of your cargo. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/a/1/da127ca003a31cecbd774fe778a29261b4b61c15.png) ---
**Author:** ![En\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/en_carta/32/357905_2.png) [@En\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/En_Carta)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/864 "2023-04-10T22:21:00Z")
POS was never without it’s barriers to new players… Let’s not forget you need standings to anchor and MOST new players know nothing about standings… Hell - if anyone still remembers how hard it was to do a reaction at a POS… At least it was “Just” a POS and some Stront & Fuel back then… none of this nonsense about cores and 7 day timers… Hell - how many new players that enlist on day one ACTUALLY log back in within 7 days let alone take part in any kind of chat or join a corp ? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/865 "2023-04-10T22:55:44Z")
> [@En\_Carta](#): > > POS was never without it’s barriers to new players… How many new players anchored a POS within 7 days? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274.md?page=42) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274.md?page=44)