# What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 10, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274 "2023-01-10T14:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/946 "2023-05-02T11:34:54Z")
> [@Next\_Enemy](#): > > Game would probably explode and reach mainstream. Why? And why would you want it to? ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/947 "2023-05-02T21:10:10Z")
I forget if I answered without trolling… #1 Make CCP a neutral third party. #2 Remove War Hqs and structure requirements for war. #3 Add in a member count limit for war ineligible. #4 Eliminate monopolies and create opportunities for competition with a path to power for all. #5 Get control of all the free omega accounts for multiboxers. \<\<\< lets make this #1 (free after buying 3month omega and selling back LSI) #6 Actually ban the bots, script users, and third party control of accounts #7 Never allow the concentration of all power for the purpose of tax collection again. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/948 "2023-05-03T00:12:11Z")
A new golden age? Ancient Earth finding a way, after thousands of years, of reaching New Eden. What would such an exploration bring? War between New Eden and Earth or a new era of collaboration? If thousands of years of unknowns exist for ancient Earth in New Eden, then thousands of year of unknowns exist for New Eden on the other side of the Earth built super gate. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/949 "2023-05-03T12:51:25Z")
> [@Next\_Enemy](#): > > Complete reboot. Everyone starts at complete 0. Game would probably explode and reach mainstream. If there was a complete reboot it may bring in new people who are intimidated by bitter old vets for the first week. But once it was clear that the big power blocks hit the ground running and quickly established themselves as the dominate power blocks again, all the people who felt like they could not compete before would sulk off and go back to Diablo 4. It would also permanently turn off a group of people who love the feeling of building something, and never again invested time in EvE for fear that after spending years of building something it would just get wiped again. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/950 "2023-05-03T13:05:25Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > If there was a complete reboot it may bring in new people who are intimidated by bitter old vets for the first week. But once it was clear that the big power blocks hit the ground running and quickly established themselves as the dominate power blocks again, all the people who felt like they could not compete before would sulk off and go back to Diablo 4. Classic case of equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome. All the lazy people want the same rewards, status and power as the people who put in active effort and capability which just isn’t going to happen. The fact that these people don’t even _realise_ this is the case just shows how extremely dunce they are. ---
**Author:** ![Ginto\_Maldari\_Maldarians](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ginto_maldari_maldarians/32/369454_2.png) [@Ginto\_Maldari\_Maldarians](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ginto_Maldari_Maldarians)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/951 "2023-05-03T20:45:50Z")
Hi guys. I have returned after 7 years of hiatus - much has happened, and I’m glad to be back. Slow but steady. But lol, wtf happened to original plex? It has quadrupled in price for some thing called Omega. Had to wrap my head around that one. What would make the game better? Make me CEO so I can actually get the teams to work on something. But in seriousness, I wanted to make a new topic to discuss my disappointment that in _7 years_ what has progressed? The fact that some games CCP made have been turned off? Wtaf? So, here’s what I’d do: **Movies** No, they don’t have to be 2 hour long Marvel cinematics, but come on. Where are the 5, 10, 30, 60 minute movies of stories in Eve? I don’t mean the Scope either using 80% in game footage with overlays. There are tonnes of lore, from the small to the large. Why not show a day in the life of a station habitat scavenger? A pirates day of barely getting by? A day in the life in the grand palaces of Amarr? The rise and struggle of the Caldari state? The aftermath of Caldari Prime’s citizens with the fall of the Shiigeru? So many more, just not involving capsuleers - or maybe even show events from the planet that seem mundane. There are soooooooooooooooooooooo many opportunities, and like with Disney, they have asked artists to contribute. Could you imagine giving £5k or £40k to an artist and saying “Hey, make us a story based around this game”. Obviously they’d have to know the game, but £5k versus £500k a year for a studio over many years? An artist would jump at the chance tocome known. Seems like a no brainer, and a win win for everyone **Games** Okay. What in the Shiigeru is going on CCP? Where’s Dust 514? More specifically - why on God’s grey Caldari Prime have you _not put this game on PC_. Where’s the sense? I don’t genuinely get it. There’s so much opportunity to make money here as well: •Port Dust 514 to PC •Fix any bugs, glitches that come with it •Release game •Make it F2P, but linked to your Eve Online account. If it has Omega, so does your Dust 514 account, give Omega players bonuses like different weapons like some games. Not very OP, but just unique for certain playstyles •No Eve Online? Still offer premium services anyway. If World of Warships can do it, CCP can do it for Dust 514 and Eve Online •What about the spinoff games? What the heck? Racing, Drone Fighting, FPS games. Imagine a murder mystery in Jita Station, the most popular station ever. That’d be wack, but also interesting, or you are on a Nyx mothership and having to board an Avatar titan and fight your way through and claim the ship. That _in itself_ could be a game with the scale of it! What if it was like Dead Space and an infection got on board a freighter? So so so so so many possible spinoffs on just little things. Racing planet side, in space, through stations and through moons. There are literally thousands of planets, let alone hundreds of set pieces per system. **Music** I know there’s plenty of music already. Why not make songs regarding great stories in Eve? Imagine Sabaton, but for the Eve universe. Mate, that’d be sick. A new song per epic war would be so inspiring. Again, you could pay some artists to come up with this, you don’t have to do it yourselves. **Books** I’m told there were books. _Were_. We need more fam. There are possibly tens of thousands of books you could make. What about the slave that became a general? The typical doings of an Amarr accountant who’s life was turned around when he became involved with doing the math for some dunce in the Guristas? So so so so so so so many opportunities. **Animations** Kinda fits under movies but, these are probably more appropriate for shorts. I’d say these are great for 30 second up to 10 minutes, which could just feature short stories or random happenings. **Toys** I know you guys have done merch before, but I think if you made some cheaper versions that could be sold in stores, you’d make a good chunk of money. Especially as people can now play the game for free completely and use Omega for other things, you’d definitely attract attention. If you like CCP you can just make me CEO and I’ll fix all your problems lol. Random ideas for stories/movies/games: Being a citizen on a keepstar while it’s under attack by Goonswarm (if they’re still around idk) Murder mystery on Jita Invasion of a titan Ground racing game like an Eve mario kart, featuring hovering and wheeled vehicles over various terrain (city, outlands, wastelands, moons, etc) Tower defence game RPG/Single-player campaign game like the Star Wars battlefront series (new or old, take your pick) RTS game based on factions and what their ground units might look like (think Supreme Commander) Fighting to save Shiigeru then escaping death on Caldari Prime…or not? A slaves rise to power A generals fall to piracy Exploring ancient histories City/fleet simulator (imagine Cities: Skylines but playing as different factions and trying to maintain cities, stations, armies, citizens, supplies, manufacturing, etc with Caldari, Gallente, etc as themed factions and their own challenges and needs Factory simulator Fighting in or against a rebellion Zombie/Infection survival…station, ship? Imagine Left 4 Dead in the theme of Eve Online. Imagine surviving being in a Raven, a Rokh, a Keepstar, an Avatar, a Wyvern, fighting for your survival, with a massive range of tools and weapons. That’d be pretty sick. See how many ideas there are? The list keeps coming. I used a random game idea generator for a couple of these but most were just off the top of my head. There is a massive potential for an Eve Universe set. Maybe not everyone will play Eve Online, but you can certainly spread your wings and provide better income. If you attach some of these to Eve Online itself, it will help support player numbers in some cases. You wanted Dust 514 to affect Eve Online and vice versa - why not help players that don’t want to play an MMO and would happily play an FPS? Make it so they earn 4x the XP for unlocks or something, or even earn PLEX if they get involved in player actions and choose a side, a bonus if they help win the battle. There are so many opportunities and it _actually is so painful_ not seeing any of this happening, except just limiting yourselves. Why was there a massive amount around 2010-2014 versus after? Was it because the games you brought out were left alone to die? What happened to Eve Valkyrie? I need answers, and I’m really upset that not more has been done. I have kept up to date with The Scope over the years but more definitely could be done. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/953 "2023-05-03T21:17:08Z")
> [@Srima\_Darkstar](#): > > I think it would be a poor idea to make high sec more dangerous as well. We already face suicide gankers, thankfully I was hauling a load of ore to Dodixie and was warned by a player in local not to proceed on course as there was a suicide ganker on the gate. I went the long way around and avoided them. I thanked the informant in game mail and tipped the 1 million ISK. I had a load worth 25 million on me. Sheesh…I just flew 250m worth of ammo and stuff through Dodixie. I must be doing something wrong for those gankers not to pay me any attention. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/954 "2023-05-03T21:43:10Z")
Nice write up, imo you’re 100% correct… Also, welcome back to Eve… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/958 "2023-05-04T08:03:45Z")
Removed multiple OT and Spam - pleasy Stick to Op´s Topic. ---
**Author:** ![Seydin\_Alisander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seydin_alisander/32/361376_2.png) [@Seydin\_Alisander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Seydin_Alisander)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/959 "2023-05-04T14:01:05Z")
If by “golden age” you mean more players. The only answer is BIG change. All MMOs go though a cycle and eventually plateau at a committed player base. EVE being a complex and difficult game means the plateau is lower than other more popular games. Having said that, 20 to 25k logged in whenever I log on seems pretty healthy for a 20 year old game. I have to guess the game is at least breaking even if not profitable so the long term future seems pretty secure. As for the a new “golden age”. I see 3 options. 1. CCP reworks and updates the game and come out with an EVE 2. That would stir the required attention to get other players interested again. 2. CCP creates another server that has a different universe and slight tweaks to the game play to keep it fresh. Then the PR dept. can run a “for the first time in 20 years, explore unknown space” campaign. That would probably do the trick. 3. Have a cataclysmic event occur where most of the known universe is destroyed and occupied. Hence a completed rebuild would be required. I’m sure this would cause a lot of veteran tears but I’m willing to guess they are more tasty than noob tears. Having said all that, EVE is stable and doing just fine the way it is imho. Some things are just too complex and difficult for the masses. So having a solvent, stable game 20 years on is quite an accomplishment. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/960 "2023-05-04T18:06:53Z")
> [@Seydin\_Alisander](#): > > Have a **cataclysmic** event occur where most of the known universe is destroyed and occupied. Yeah, that worked out **really** well for World of Warcraft. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/961 "2023-05-04T18:57:31Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > According to the New Halaima Code of Conduct, written by the Supreme Protectoress of Halaima > > “ **No AFK mining allowed**. It was also written that warp core stab, was illegal to use but we found then using then on cats to travel because we kept pulling them out of fleet. Good times and hypocritical times. But on topic fix wars and make them have meaning ---
**Author:** ![Seydin\_Alisander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seydin_alisander/32/361376_2.png) [@Seydin\_Alisander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Seydin_Alisander)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/962 "2023-05-04T19:14:55Z")
The players lost nothing. Blizzard just freshened up the map. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/963 "2023-05-04T19:54:39Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > we found then using then on cats This does not apply to New Order Enforcement Agents. You though, @Githany_Red of the NEPF, your punishment for false accusations of hypocrisy is to become a miner-bumper. You must continue to bump miners for an indefinite period of time, after which you will become my pet doggy whom I shall call SPOT. ---
**Author:** ![Ginto\_Maldari\_Maldarians](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ginto_maldari_maldarians/32/369454_2.png) [@Ginto\_Maldari\_Maldarians](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ginto_Maldari_Maldarians)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/964 "2023-05-04T20:51:29Z")
I honestly wish times like this I could just smack someone and ask, “What are you doing?” and show them this post. Will I be heard? Unlikely ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/965 "2023-05-05T00:05:11Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > become a miner-bumper. Never really bumped miners, bumped a few freighters away from gank fleet balls, that’s funny to watch the gankers all die together alone. Some times they try to follow their speeding target for a bit, ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/966 "2023-05-05T05:34:29Z")
> **What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age** Personally I think CCP should have all Dev’s create a new character and play it for a few weeks (without any Dev hacks) before they submit any ideas for changing, updating or adding game content. As for CCP themselves: 1. Hire competent qualified programmers. 2. Focus Dev work on removing / fixing all bug issues. 3. Complete / finish and or update all current in-game content. 4. Run all changes / new content on test server first before implementing it in-game. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/967 "2023-05-05T09:30:21Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > bumped a few freighters away from gank fleet balls Bad Girl ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/a/c/bac923b2a4bc13ef6a61280d8131ec3609757084.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/968 "2023-05-05T10:13:31Z")
Had been thinking about sacrifice and using pilots ability to capture the jetcan to rake it away from the crime scene to hopefully another pilot with fast warp and cargo space to steal from the gankers. ---
**Author:** ![C-Kat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/c-kat/32/374268_2.png) [@C-Kat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/C-Kat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/969 "2023-06-10T20:03:26Z")
> [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](#): > > we have only had about 21 thousand players daily which is not bad we do not have 21k players. we have, at most 10k- and even that is seriously questionable. For example- I have 8 accounts. Every person I know in game have more then one. There are 21k of accounts daily, not players. For another example- I opened more then 40 accounts in my time. And that is the reason CCP can say that they have “huge amount” of players each year. So no, we do not have 21k of players. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274.md?page=47) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274.md?page=49)