# What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age

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**Created:** [January 10, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274 "2023-01-10T14:11:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1100 "2023-08-03T04:32:07Z")

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Yes. Golden age with “golden ammo”. 😃

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1101 "2023-08-03T05:42:32Z")

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InB4

> [@Ammunition Popularity Question](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ammunition-popularity-question/297211/16):
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> Golden ammo is best ammo you load credit_card PLEX right into your weapons and shoot them creating miniature doomsday explosions. inb4 in a NES near you… soon stuck_out_tongue

:psyccp:

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**Author:** ![Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaj_a_beardhat/32/449367_2.png) [@Kaj\_A\_Beardhat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaj_A_Beardhat)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1102 "2023-08-05T20:28:36Z")

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1: Nerf Citadels, give them anchoring limits so you can’t spam them, such as how starbases required a celestial, as well as simply removing asset safety or at the very least remove the ability to store supers, you shouldn’t be able to cache them, dock them in keepstars sure, but caching them with asset safety dumping them into NPC stations, **No.** Simply put Citadels are logistically overpowered compared to what they were meant to replace, you can store infinite m3 in an astrahus, you could not do this with a starbase, you could store infinite m3 in an outpost, but you could only have one in a system. It just makes war so unfun, especially when you have entire regions full of citadels to mindnumbingly bash and all you get is a dumb core.

2: Fix T1 subcap industry. T1 is the baseline of the game, its what all new players fly in their first few months of play. Scarcity and industry updates have ruined T1 production, you should be able to produce T1 anywhere in EVE, especially in nulsec where your supply lines might be cut off during war. Rorquals and moons having ore minerals was overpowered, we only needed to nerf rorquals and moons, not ruin baseline production on basic ships.

3: Fix everything that enables lame suicide ganks. I’m not saying outright removing it but certain things should be fixed, clone tags shouldn’t fix sec status, negative sec status should be a massive hinderance to suicide ganking, ect. Agency bookmarks shouldn’t dynamically update with anomalies. Ore anomalies should be changed back to signatures and require a different type of probes “industrial probes” that can only be used by Exploration Frigates T1/T2, or Industrial Command Ships such as Porpoise, Orca, and Rorqual.

4: Bring back wardecing to how it used to be. But make the price per day for war be based on how much the attacking side has destroyed the previous day, with long cooldowns. The current system is useless, the older system was easily abusable, but at least it worked. Basing daily payment upkeep like a reverse bounty payout system, such as “You killed 2 billion isk yesterday, to keep your declaration today you must pay 1.5-2 billion+compounding fees”

5: Stop redoing the NPE and holding players hands all the time. Redo the career missions so its less waiting around and add in cosmos level sight seeing stuff around starter systems. Fix low level PVE content so its more interesting to do than shooting 5-20 red triangles 1-5 times, closer to burners but balanced for t1 ships and modules.

6: Remove the NEX store LARP between AURA and ISIS, that thing is poison to new player retention.

7: Add content for all ship types in all areas of space, but not instanced crap like abyss.

8: Finally give us the caldari-minmatar pirate line.

9: Dust 514 port to PC with persistent combat like planetside.

There are other things I would love to see, such as the removal of skill point injectors, or make skill extractors and injectors account bound so you can ‘respec’ or feeding skills to alts, but I feel that we’ve already had a decade of skill injection so it would just cause a massive imbalance of newbros vs vets with 5 maxed accounts, a can of worms if you will.

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**Author:** ![Vilia\_Meretia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vilia_meretia/32/379609_2.png) [@Vilia\_Meretia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vilia_Meretia)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1103 "2023-08-06T02:37:36Z")

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> [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](#):
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> What do you think would bring eve into a new golden age

Put new mission agents in POS that come with a module for the station. Every completed mission by whomever gives a percentage to the station owner only collectable upon structure destruction.  
That’s a lot of work though and it probably isn’t a good idea anyway.

Let’s see… oh, I know. Sell more packs.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1104 "2023-08-06T16:31:34Z")

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How about, move all level 3 and 4 agents and mission locations to low sec.

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1105 "2023-09-26T17:14:34Z")

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just going to bump this back to annoy people though I do feel that eve vanguard and the pirate warfare will help set the stage for the next golden age

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1106 "2023-09-26T17:26:04Z")

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No more Alpha accounts.

… and yes

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> How about, move all level 3 and 4 agents and mission locations to low sec

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1107 "2023-09-26T17:27:24Z")

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I feel bad almost for everyone who saw this post and commented now as every new comment cases them a ping

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1108 "2023-09-26T17:28:37Z")

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> [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](#):
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> as every new comment cases them a ping

How much is a ping?

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1109 "2023-09-26T17:30:06Z")

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its just the one 1 dot but there are at least over 100 different people on this post

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1110 "2023-09-26T17:31:21Z")

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Then they can take their responsibility for visiting or posting in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1111 "2023-09-26T17:33:42Z")

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lol were almost at 1,100 comments

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1112 "2023-09-26T17:34:30Z")

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A _few_ more to go 😄

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1113 "2023-09-26T17:37:05Z")

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But lets get back on topic I could total see vanguard bringing a lot more players

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1114 "2023-09-26T17:46:48Z")

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> [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](#):
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> I could total see vanguard bringing a lot more players

I agree. If properly advertised, it could bring lots of new players. I hope CCP isn’t going to advertise it as “free” or they’d be shooting themselves in the foot.

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1115 "2023-09-26T17:47:06Z")

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I’m going to leave and theirs going to be like 50 comments isn’t there

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1116 "2023-09-26T17:47:33Z")

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its omega exclusive

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1117 "2023-09-26T17:48:56Z")

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> [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](#):
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> its omega exclusive

That’s a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1118 "2023-09-26T17:52:11Z")

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yeah ccp needs the money from it as they been working on this for years now. Also ONE COMMENT AWAY

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-think-would-bring-eve-into-a-new-golden-age/391274/1119 "2023-09-26T17:54:59Z")

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The Alpha clone idea is a very bad idea. Either a game is really free or it isn’t. I bet they lost tons of players with that “play for free” bs.

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