# What Does Legion Mean For You? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 5, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287 "2025-05-05T20:52:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/21 "2025-05-09T10:04:31Z")
If your corp is full of low effort grind bears who don’t really have a clue on what they’re doing you can TRY to engage with them as if they are rational human beings with a brain, but that takes effort and it won’t work because those clone soldiers would have to use their own agency to interact and think for themselves. It’s like herding cats but way more painful. They’d have to read what needs doing from some place like your forums or discord, which is just not going to happen because that would take effort, and then they’d have to engage braincells to figure out which part of that they could do, which is… an optimistic assumption because if they were capable of that they’d not (want to) be in that corp in the first place. It’s far easier to treat them like the NPC they really are and give them “dailies” to do. “Get this, bring it here, click button and receive dopamine hit”. And by “if your corp” I mean most (null) corps. ---
**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/22 "2025-05-09T11:29:26Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > I mean, seems redundant when the blackglass already exists Blackglass gives 20 Strength and -40 Coherence for Data Analyzers only and is usually used with the combined Data and Relic Analyzers, such as Zeugma, because it applies to the Relic portion as well in that case. The point of that implant is to one shot nodes, making Coherence irrelevant. The new set apparently gives bonus Coherence for both Data and Relic Analyzers, and no Strength. They’re different use cases. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/23 "2025-05-09T14:37:38Z")
> [@Skadoos](#): > > The new set apparently gives bonus Coherence for both Data and Relic Analyzers, and no Strength. They’re different use cases. I mean you don’t need coherence when they die first, so sure it serves a different technical purpose but has the exact same net result, i.e redundant ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/24 "2025-05-09T14:41:36Z")
- next few expansions leaked \* After Legion the expansions are: Battle for New Eden Bleaklands Drakeflight The Wardec Within I will not reveal my sources… except to Fedo. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/25 "2025-05-09T15:40:38Z")
Another ganking nerf. Nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/26 "2025-05-09T16:47:03Z")
Well, you can use both the set and the Blackglass, with or without taking a 600mil Zeugma into a ghost or sleeper site. There isn’t really a hacking set in the game currently, except maybe the hacking adjacent Virtue set, and that’s debatable. Options are nice. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/27 "2025-05-09T17:14:13Z")
> [@Skadoos](#): > > with or without taking a 600mil Zeugma into a ghost or sleeper site Now you just risk the billion or so the implant set will cost you instead ---
**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/28 "2025-05-09T17:24:10Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Now you just risk the billion or so the implant set will cost you instead Ghost and sleeper sites don’t pod players, so not really. You don’t normally need either, both are just optional efficiency upgrades when hacking in safe-ish space, unless more difficult exploration content gets introduced. I’d prefer a clone over a module either way. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/29 "2025-05-09T18:30:31Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Another ganking nerf. Nothing else. If you’re referring to the resistance buff, will it really matter? ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/30 "2025-05-09T18:33:42Z")
maybe the triglavian marauder will attract my attention but knowing the market, it will cost 500b at the start and 100B after a year ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/31 "2025-05-10T07:34:08Z")
Well color me shocked. I stand corrected. Makes me wonder about something else though then… who supplies the market specifically. But thats neither here nor there atm. Thanx. ---
**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/32 "2025-05-10T07:59:41Z")
The Ienakkamon residents presumably. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/f/5/ff5ff4b4d5b06b6242d5804b528079349bb2b94d.jpeg "This old event still prints 300m ISK per hour") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0wyOBmX_50) ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/33 "2025-05-10T13:28:18Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > If you’re referring to the resistance buff, will it really matter? Not all of us have 30 accounts to gank freighters with. Some of us even gank with 1 character, be it Tornado gankers or me. Often happens that the target dies to very last shot that CONCORD allows me. If it has 11% more resistances it will easily survive next time. It pretty much mean we need +1 to almost any ship we want to gank. Which is brutal. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/34 "2025-05-10T13:37:21Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > It pretty much mean we need +1 to almost any ship we want to gank. Or, one could argue, you needed -1 the last 5 years, and now it goes ‘back to normal’. Just sayin’ 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/35 "2025-05-10T13:38:23Z")
Nvm, thought that Surgical Strike skill gave 5% before. I guess I am wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/36 "2025-05-10T13:39:41Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Well but that patch that nerfed resistances nerfed DPS too Did it? The only significant DPS change I am aware of from the last years was the T2 shortrange-ammo buff (+15% if I am not mistaken). Which is… a buff. ---
**Author:** ![Father\_White](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/father_white/32/445253_2.png) [@Father\_White](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Father_White)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/37 "2025-05-10T17:20:40Z")
I’m interested to see how the new freelance mission systems shakes out. Because it feels like it was been built from the ground up purely to benefit scammers. I didn’t see where it does anything that buy orders don’t already do. Except for the little faction war missions they showed. My estimation is that people will use these missions to either lure players into operating into the area they hunt in. Or they will use it to obfuscate the value of items for production missions. I think it’s a really cool system all the same and that they could make it into a actual genuine replacement for traditional mission running. But I strongly doubt that’s what it’s going to be out of the gate. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/38 "2025-05-10T21:27:25Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Did it? The only significant DPS change I am aware of from the last years was the T2 shortrange-ammo buff (+15% if I am not mistaken). Which is… a buff. The Navy Exequror also got buffed (2022) - and the Rupture is getting buffed in Legion. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/39 "2025-05-10T21:37:12Z")
> [@Father\_White](#): > > I’m interested to see how the new freelance mission systems shakes out. Because it feels like it was been built from the ground up purely to benefit scammers. I didn’t see where it does anything that buy orders don’t already do. Except for the little faction war missions they showed. The six (6) types of Freelance projects that are being released with Legion probably aren’t enough to get a good idea of any future potential (they’ve hinted there would be more types, but no additional details beyond that). Considering it was designed, announced and touted as a (null-sec) recruiting tool and requires the rental of a station office - I think the large null-sec alliances will completely price anyone out of the market. Their reward? They can effectively outsource ADM and actively recruit at the same time. I don’t know how high-sec, low-sec or wormhole corporations could even compete - since they gain absolutely nothing (zero) for any Freelance projects - except the chance to potentially recruit pilots. I mean, we’ll need to see if when it’s released as we’ve only been given the briefest glimpses from the FanFest blurbs. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287/40 "2025-05-10T22:08:22Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > Rupture is getting buffed in Legion. Not really. That extra damage will not offset loss of 1 attack in highsec gank. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-does-legion-mean-for-you/485287.md?page=3)