# What Eve is like for a new player

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-eve-is-like-for-a-new-player/187337>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 2, 2019, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-eve-is-like-for-a-new-player/187337 "2019-09-02T07:37:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-eve-is-like-for-a-new-player/187337/176 "2019-09-06T22:51:32Z")

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> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> THIS is why your leaders tell you to STFU in local. What they reall mean is just STFU.

My leaders? Who might they be?

> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> Okay, so, in your theory of how new players work, you abuse them and they care and keep playing. Am I understanding this properly?

Abuse them? What abuse?

In my theory, new players come in, they blow stuff up, steal from vets and have fun doing so.

But we stopped that.

> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> Look, get on point or [expletive deleted] off. I don’t have time for your stupid arguments.  
> [Venture | Ship | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/ship/32880/) ← does that look like veteran players getting ganked?

Look at the players not the ship.  
Or better still, look at actual ganks.

> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> [https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001134/](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001134/) ← does that look like veteran players getting war dec’ed?

The corps and alliances with structures? Yes. They aren’t new players. And CCP said, it’s not new players that are being decced.

> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> Do veterans run missions in high sec, generally speaking?

Yes. Lots and lots.

70% of players are in hisec. It’s not just industry and it certainly isn’t exploration.

> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> And, I don’t know about AWOXing. NOBODY knows about AWOXing. That’s the nature of deception.

We did.

Ccp argued that new players weren’t being accepted into corps for fear that they were awoxers.

However, if you actual asked the corps themselves that did not want to take on new players, the reasons were overwhelmingly because they didn’t want to teach new players from scratch or they had high sp doctrines. In fact several of the corps that didn’t consider themselves new player friendly were actually willing to accept new players if they demonstrated the right attitude/ability.

Buts that’s only corps that didn’t consider themselves new players friendly. In fact the vast majority of corps with recruitment adds considered themselves new playr friendly.

There was in fact no evidence to suggest that new players were being rejected or blocked from applying to corps for fear of awoxing.

In other words it was b-lox. And didn’t accomplish what it was meant to.

> **[Awox Nerf Fails to Boost EVE Numbers - Crime & Punishment - EVE Online...](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/435529/)**
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> EVE allows you to discover, explore and dominate an amazing science fiction universe while you fight, trade, form corporations and alliances with other players.

Same as the wardec nerfs didn’t do what they supposed to.

What it seemed to do instead was take eve’s most engaging feature (being in a corp) and turned it into something unengaging.

See thread here:

> [@Just joined a corp with 20 members and now I found they all are the same human being](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-joined-a-corp-with-20-members-and-now-i-found-they-all-are-the-same-human-being/188037/1):
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> dafak? this is scary. I want to play with 20 different people, not with a freak with no social life managing 20 toons. I feel scammed. Another stain in my employment history. And EVE won’t let us clear it. Awesome.

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