# What gamers want? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 3, 2025, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430 "2025-06-03T10:45:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/61 "2025-06-05T19:50:59Z")
Just think how bad it would feel if you had paid for your ships with real money and you were getting blown up every 10 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/62 "2025-06-05T20:17:27Z")
Team Woke. ### 🎯 **Target Audience** - Job seekers in the gaming industry - Potential recruits, especially creatives, developers, and diversity hires Did you see ANYONE working on the base game? Money well spent? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/63 "2025-06-05T20:42:44Z")
Ah…yet another in your long series of ‘Let’s Invent A Gripe’ threads. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/433985_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/64 "2025-06-05T21:00:24Z")
No torch or pitchfork… I don’t know what other players want. However if they cannot find it within the first hour of game play, it is highly unlikely they will stick around. > [@Gealbhan](#): > > EvE is too hyper-aggressive to new players. Other games have been accused of being too aggressive as well. My husband plays those war games style arenas, and he gets people threatening him all the time. Most are just children who get mad when they get sniped or shot in back. They do attract large audience, just look at Call of Duty. > [@Gealbhan](#): > > …you’re going to have to ban PvP in Hi-Sec entirely and make PvP optional by going to low or null sec. I play casually, I mostly mine ore in low sec on one account. The other is my PvP account, out of those 3 characters, my best one is at 30% dangerous. I am not sure how relates to my aggressive tendencies. I would incline to disagree to making high sec a 100% safe place. I don’t think even low sec is all that dangerous. > [@Gealbhan](#): > > …new player retention is abysmal. My neighbor would agree with this statement. He places a lot of blame ( for just about everything ) squarely on the shoulders of the under 30 year old crowd. Where I stated above, “within the first hour” he would say within 20 minutes for this generation of gamers. > [@Gealbhan](#): > > They don’t want to sub to “The Purge Online”. Some people do, not everyone. Since I happen to know 2 to 3 percent of the population are sociopaths, a game titled that would appeal to them. Oh, and before someone jumps in and says, I just called everyone a serial killer, I did not. There are a lot of functional sociopaths in society that never resort to violence. No one can say what the new gamers want, except themselves. The trick is finding it. It is almost impossible to make a game that appeals to everyone, if you ever do then you caught lightening in a bottle. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/65 "2025-06-06T01:07:02Z")
Depends on your personality. I feel worse losing a ship I actually earned. The whole point in this regard, is the P2Wer would never attack if the game didn’t have P2W, they would never take the time to earn the first ship. And everyone actually earning their ships would be free from these game breaking (to people who think you should earn your ships) attacks. _EDIT_ 2 typos ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/66 "2025-06-06T01:28:47Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I suppose he can head into null sec and start mining the rare ores there with his civilian fit venture… Who says he has to use civilian stuff? From the career paths you can get more stuff. One can easily farm the 50mil or so it takes to do gas huffing and do that, making a lot more than even null ores will. Not to mention all the upfront SP you get from the ACP in general. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/67 "2025-06-10T20:19:55Z")
i do blow and get blow up a lot yet i don’t feel pain ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/68 "2025-06-10T20:29:13Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > The new omega screen makes EVE seem like pay to win. You can ‘win’ EVE ? See…this is what I find absurd. _The very same people_ who whine about people ‘winning’ EVE are the ones who also say no-one even cares about killboard, how well anyone is doing, how much ISK anyone has…etc, etc. So…which is it ? Make up your minds as they can’t _both_ be true. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/69 "2025-06-10T22:14:01Z")
Now you’re being condescending. There is no winning any MMO, even mobile games. “Pay to Win” is a common expression among all games with transactions. You clearly know that. I know you do. What I don’t know is why you’re choosing to attack him for using it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/70 "2025-06-10T22:34:20Z")
If there are no winners, then there are also no losers. So the miners will be just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/71 "2025-06-10T22:41:37Z")
I never said otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/72 "2025-06-11T03:03:45Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Now you’re being condescending. There is no winning any MMO Well there might not be for you…but I’m doing nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/73 "2025-06-11T04:28:00Z")
I have everything I want out of this game right now ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/74 "2025-06-11T14:43:18Z")
That’s sort of like marking your own exam papers and giving yourself an A+ every time. I mean, what possible reason is there for advancement if you are already A+ all the time ? Without some relative scale ( and killboard is a part of that ) it is all meaningless. I’d give myself a B- and ‘could do better’…compared with those 10,000 solo kills players I’m aware of. It gives me a _genuine_ marker to judge my status. ---
**Author:** ![Lara\_Agnon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lara_agnon/32/377122_2.png) [@Lara\_Agnon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lara_Agnon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/75 "2025-06-27T08:15:59Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > reach max level in a month without spending ANY MONEY AT ALL. Yes, I can play Wow play for approx. one day farming to max level which is level 20 without spending any money you are just a troll ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-gamers-want/488430/76 "2025-09-25T08:16:36Z")
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