# What happened to Eve? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 10, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797 "2020-03-10T04:06:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/227 "2020-03-12T18:55:37Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > you chose to be a bully shooting defensless opponents. the difference is i have a spine, you dont Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/228 "2020-03-12T19:23:57Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > you did not chose to be a predator, you chose to be a bully shooting defensless opponents. the difference is i have a spine, you dont Have you looked at my killboard? Who have i shot that was defenseless? ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/229 "2020-03-12T19:34:37Z")
yes i did šŸ˜ƒ and your kills are full of miners and poor sobs who tried their luck in lowsec šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ probably just accidentally travelling through in their carebear ships ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/230 "2020-03-12T20:20:42Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > yes i did šŸ˜ƒ and your kills are full of miners and poor sobs who tried their luck in lowsec šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ probably just accidentally travelling through in their carebear ships. Prove it. Link a kill of miners in lowsec. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/231 "2020-03-12T22:46:47Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > your kills are full of miners and poor sobs who tried their luck in lowsec You are a nullsec dweller, you should know that systems with negative security rating are not lowsecā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/232 "2020-03-13T20:58:48Z")
Same old ginger viking, same old game, who knew. šŸ˜œ ---
**Author:** ![Coagulant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coagulant/32/188937_2.png) [@Coagulant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coagulant)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/233 "2020-03-14T01:58:31Z")
The games become a cesspool of toxicity & ganking (sorry elite PvP). Thanks to big beautiful blue donuts, Alpha clones & Chinese botters. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/234 "2020-03-14T07:17:02Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > You are a nullsec dweller, Youā€™re assuming he actually plays the game. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/235 "2020-03-14T14:12:54Z")
> [@Thorian\_Baalnorn](#): > > And yet PVE gets so much more love. ā€¦By developers? No? Exactly. > [@Thorian\_Baalnorn](#): > > [Economic Report](https://webimg.ccpgamescdn.com/7lhcm73ukv5p/6ainE0UVMrtFMvTHqmXH6/1ddb594a352402a6b23b1fa870177036/0_produced.vs.destroyed.png) So you are saying CCP Larrikin has made a mistake with the economic reportā€¦every.single.month? You are certainly making a mistake with your understanding of that graph. For example, what about Captials? You need to build the components first, and then combine those components to create the end product, the capital ship. Do those get counted twice? What about PI? The best thing to look at in that graph, is Mining VS Destruction, which are perfectly balanced. > [@Thorian\_Baalnorn](#): > > That is a strawman question because NPCs are controlled by AI scripts and thus extremely predictable. Players on the other hand are completely unpredictable. Because of this simple observation, one will always be more weary of the unpredictable than they would the predictable. > [@Triglavian Invasions, and how they can suck a bag of donkey flops](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasions-and-how-they-can-suck-a-bag-of-donkey-flops/224479/6): > > 1. Specifically restricted conduct. The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: Trolling Flaming ā€¦ This guy would disagree with you. But please, explain, why would that make my question a Straw Man? Part of the fact that Players are less predictable, should be factored into why PVP has a more heavier impact, no? > [@Thorian\_Baalnorn](#): > > You think that is all it takes to get people to play a video game? I didnt say ā€œAll it takesā€, but you were the one who was making contradictory statements. > [@Thorian\_Baalnorn](#): > > Im not going to educate you on what it takes to run a successful MMO Yeah, Im not CCP, I dont care. Making EVE better isnt my day job. > [@Thorian\_Baalnorn](#): > > Eve is stagnant, the UI has gotten horrible and unresponsive I dont think you understand what you said. > [@Thorian\_Baalnorn](#): > > Most of what is left of the player base is die hards who will ride the ship all the way to the bottom, newbies, and vets coming back for a couple of weeks maybe a couple of months at time to see what changes have been made before clocking out again for a year or two. Thats quite the claim. I hope youve got evidence and facts to back it up. ---
**Author:** ![Ket\_Ama\_Kel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ket_ama_kel/32/185179_2.png) [@Ket\_Ama\_Kel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ket_Ama_Kel)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/237 "2020-03-16T16:17:11Z")
Couple of thingsā€¦ Eve gets to be addictive to some extent. I stopped playing any number of times. Mostly because I got tired of getting my ass kicked by overwhelming hordes of hostiles. It gets two ā€œexpensiveā€ ISK wise to try and fight the gangs. It took a while to figure out how to keep a mining company solvent and still mine in low-sec. Yes I am one of those ā€œboringā€ miner types. Running a mining operation and staying alive is not as boring as you think. Have to be sharp to avoid losing valuable equipment and getting podded. While PVP is a pain the ass to me, it does add challenge to us boring types. Iā€™ve long since gotten over that ā€œGod damn it, you sank my battleshipā€ frame of mind. Losing the occasional transport or barge is the cost of playing EVE. In spite of the general consensus, I donā€™t want the whole social interaction that the majority claims is what EVE is really about. For me the game is a chance to get away from it all and explore space on my own terms. Donā€™t like others telling me what to do in the real world. Iā€™ll be damned if Iā€™ll allow that to happen in a video game. I am perfectly comfortable with my own style of play, thank you very much. Your right, the sandbox gets a bit old. How many times can you look at the same lava planet, station, or gate. There is variety, but not a whole lot if youā€™ve wandered around a bit. EVE is not Star Citizen as cool as that would be, Star Citizen is forever under development and also lacking in some variety. If Iā€™m correct the planets are so detailed there a very few to visit. Same for the spacecraft. While it would be wonderful to be able to tour my mining barges or have actual crews, CCP would probably have to scrap all the code and start over and go bankrupt in the process. (I miss the captains quarters, made for great photo ops). Likewise for Elite Dangerous. Lots of cool stuff but Iā€™m not sure I want to spend my golden years wandering slowly through the Milky Way. I want to explore the planets not using my time hopping across countless light years of empty space. Once again it would be cool to see the inside of my ship and actually land on foreign worldā€™s. I am pretty sure that would develop a send of sameness over time. Iā€™m thing that No Manā€™s Sky gets to be much the same. No matter what game developers do they can never match the actual variety that astrophysics and evolution that exists in the real world. Our games are kinda like the original Star Trek. To paraphrase Eddie Izzard, you beam down to the same three rocks everywhere in the universe. There are little things that CCP does that are annoying, at least to me. I wish theyā€™d fix the damn billboards. I think it was stupid and unrealistic to have Travalgians tell everyone ā€œHey, we are coming to get youā€. Kinda lost the element of surprise, one of the most effective weapons an adversary can muster. I would have rather found out on Scope like we did with the Drifters. Scope is another reason I miss the billboards, captains quarters, etc. I long for the days when Pandemic and other factions advertised. I want to find the guy with glasses and pod the bastard. I also donā€™t understand the new Skilling thing, Seems to me the PVP players donā€™t need motivation. I do understand wanting skillpoints, but I would think theyā€™d be perfectly happy with their current level of bloodlust. They are plenty dangerous just as they are in my way of thinking. Anyway, Iā€™ve prattled on far too long. Not sure I remember what I was trying to say to begin with šŸ™‚ Fly Safe! Regards, Ket Amaā€™Kel ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/238 "2020-03-16T18:09:32Z")
Have you tried the SRV in ED? You should its hellafun ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/239 "2020-03-17T08:04:02Z")
EVE online is **not** for making real world money. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-eve/224797/240 "2020-06-15T08:04:17Z")
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