# What happened to player bounties? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 17, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512 "2021-01-17T05:52:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/1 "2021-01-17T05:52:31Z")
They just disappeared? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/2 "2021-01-17T05:54:56Z")
you should know, you commented in the devblog that they were removing them… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/3 "2021-01-17T05:55:38Z")
They said it was only going to be a couple weeks - but its been months? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/4 "2021-01-17T05:58:22Z")
> [@Player Bounties & Killrights temporarily disabled](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/player-bounties-killrights-temporarily-disabled/273017/1): > > however we may choose to extend this duration if we require further analysis. guess they needed more analysis ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/5 "2021-01-17T05:59:18Z")
I guess? I don’t know, that’s why I’m asking. ---
**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/6 "2021-01-17T08:28:53Z")
Is there something in this game that works as intended besides the Ganking mechanism ? 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/7 "2021-01-17T08:38:18Z")
What bounties? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/8 "2021-01-17T08:39:38Z")
Lol, you know if CCP says “temporary” say mean actually permanent and just want to avoid further discussion at this point, and until there is severe pressure like with blackout they will never revert. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/9 "2021-01-17T16:04:03Z")
CCP: "The bounty system has the potential to become an effective way to encourage actual player vs player combat, give PvE players some agency in confronting attackers, and lead to a healthier combat ecosystem. Accordingly we have removed it from the game, to be replaced eventually by NPCs. Oh, and because ‘Chaos’. You’re welcome." ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/10 "2021-01-17T19:56:19Z")
I think that they wouldn’t put them back in as long as they don’t know how to improve them. They’ve had a _great, plausible_ reason to remove them … … and most people are definitely not going to miss them. Might as well keep them out until they know how to make them better. Also: Welcome back, Aiko! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/11 "2021-01-17T21:10:23Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > they don’t know how to improve them. Bounties don’t need improvement. They were fine. ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/12 "2021-01-17T21:20:48Z")
mine was practically perfect in every way ☹ its only the folk that had none that cheer the bounty removal. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/13 "2021-01-17T21:23:17Z")
I liked them. They were great for suicide gankers … … and really mostly only suicide gankers, I guess … … but the implementation was lacking. I have a tiny bit of faith that they will re-release them in some improved manner. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/14 "2021-01-17T21:45:12Z")
They were too easy to get rid of. (and I mean that they were too easy to lose… people just weren’t applying big enough bounties to survive the inevitable payouts) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/15 "2021-01-17T21:53:35Z")
That’s just nonsense. They were too easy to get rid of? What does that even mean? The payout was like 20% of the ship value. If you kill a 10 million isk ship, you get 2 million isk. If the ship is worth 100 million, you get 20 million isk. What’s wrong with that? It was a great system, and a great motivator to shoot people with bounties. ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/16 "2021-01-17T22:20:55Z")
Admit it, you just want to flex with your high bounty and the wanted sign in your profile 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/17 "2021-01-17T22:22:00Z")
I’m glad you understood what I was getting at. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/18 "2021-01-17T22:23:36Z")
I want miners to know that they can put a bounty on their rivals, and that I will come shoot their rival because the bounty will pay for my Catalyst. The bounty system was working as intended. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/19 "2021-01-17T22:26:29Z")
There’s a limit to how much bounties pay out, because if… **insurance payout + value of dropped modules (if any) + bounty payout** are worth more than **ship’s cost of minerals + value of destroyed modules (if any)** …then the system becomes exploitable for profit. This has the effect of keeping maximum bounty payouts fairly low. They could, in theory, adjust bounty payouts for criminal targets, because the insurance payout is eliminated (40% of platinum level), but this would only amount to a few extra tens of thousands for a destroyer, and a few million for a BC. You can’t increase bounty payouts without also increasing the amount that the bounty subject loses, which means there’s no easy solution here. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512/20 "2021-01-17T22:29:19Z")
I was happy with the payout as it was. It was fine. No need to change. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-player-bounties/290512.md?page=2)