# What happened to the community? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 8, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182 "2019-12-08T02:35:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/162 "2019-12-22T08:41:33Z")
> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#): > > Eve had by this time turned into a girlfriend that got fat on purpose. I seriously lol’d. But that is so true. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/163 "2019-12-22T09:27:41Z")
It is not the first time he makes this claim. He even claimed missing out of lots of money because somebody else realised an idea before he did … or something like that. This dude has a “vivid imagination” … ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/164 "2019-12-22T09:31:15Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > I think **your** salty because you know your company is on **its** way out and **dont** like the fact that you know **im** right The only fact here is you’re not doing it right. It’s CEO unworthy use of language. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/165 "2019-12-22T11:16:54Z")
Maybe he meant to say “I am the ideas guy of the team” but obviously CEO sounds much more legitimate 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Axel\_Phenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/axel_phenix/32/176444_2.png) [@Axel\_Phenix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Axel_Phenix)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/166 "2019-12-22T14:36:12Z")
After reading this entire thread, I can confidently say that very little has happened to the EVE community. In fact, most of this reeks of 2006. The petty arguments over semantics, the obviously ■■■■■■■■ claims about RL import, the saltiness… it’s all alive and well. If anything, this thread has given me immeasurable hope for the future. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/167 "2019-12-22T18:54:11Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Because “CEO” by definition involves high-level management work that only exists for a large business. NO no no. I have multiple characters that are the CEOs of corps ranging from one to twenty five members. They are recognized as CEOs and do the stuff only a CEO is allowed to do. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/168 "2019-12-23T00:40:54Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > NO no no. I have multiple characters that are the CEOs of corps ranging from one to twenty five members. They are recognized as CEOs and do the stuff only a CEO is allowed to do. Ex-act-ter-ly. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/169 "2019-12-23T00:49:36Z")
lol - naari thinks you’re hilmar? hahaha oh my that is funny! ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/170 "2019-12-23T00:54:38Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > I think your salty because you know your company is on its way out and dont like the fact that you know im right naari…you think “hilmar” is “salty” over selling ccp for 425 million and getting what was it, 7% or something like that in his pocket? Also, ccp is not “on it’s way out”. We - much if not all the current EvE playerbase - may be sooner or later but ccp itself has far from served it’s purpose in PA’s business gamble. You brag about being a “game studio ceo” yet can’t see what PA’s likely move is? Hint - not in alignment with what you say… ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/171 "2019-12-23T02:19:43Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > you think “hilmar” is “salty” over selling ccp for 425 million and getting what was it, 7% or something like that in his pocket? Umm, Hilmar didn’t sell CCP, the investment company / partners / shareholders / board of directors is who sold CCP. The total price of $425 million includes both cash (I think it’s like 250 mill) and a bonus payout if certain financial targets are met within a specific time frame. Also when Eve was first started, Hilmar and a couple of other ex-CCP Devs did a lot of the programming work on it for at least a few years, I read some of their Dev postings back when I started playing this game in 2008. In fact a lot of company CEO’s do programming / coding work at the start until their company get’s established. Anyway, this is just a general observation, not specifically meaning you. Obviously nobody here has access to private personal info about anybody else. So in my opinion those who quickly jump on the persecution bandwagon and start calling somebody a liar when nobody can refute their claims reeks of jealousy and resentment. Granted there’s going to be a few trolls who will constantly do it regardless of any facts presented, I don’t think you’re one of those, I just mainly wanted to correct the statement about CCP being sold and kinda got sidetracked.. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/172 "2019-12-23T02:30:04Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Umm, Hilmar didn’t sell CCP, the investment company / partners / shareholders / board of directors is who sold CCP. Correct, of course. I should have said something like “you think “hilmar” is “salty” over _the_ selling _of_ ccp” hilmar held 7%-10% of ccp stock, iirc, so… ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/173 "2019-12-23T02:49:11Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > Correct, of course. I should have said something like “you think “hilmar” is “salty” over _the_ selling _of_ ccp” hilmar held 7%-10% of ccp stock, iirc, so… Yeah, that’s “only” $30-40 million on top of any money he made before that point, I’m sure he’s really feeling like a miserable failure after making enough money to go retire and live in luxury for the rest of his life. Meanwhile our favorite narcissist and fraud can’t even name a single profitable game he has developed. So really, who is the failure here? ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/174 "2019-12-23T03:39:38Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > naari…you think “hilmar” is “salty” over selling ccp for 425 million and getting what was it, 7% or something like that in his pocket? I do, because its really chump change. Like i said, kixeye is pumping flash games for 600m a year, how is ccp doing so bad? Its only produced game is 10 months in before death, and the collapse of the company. btw, he was also given strong argumentation to change his thinking and shift eve, but ignored it. so he can sit on a few million that will be meager means for him, as i doubt he will go anywhere after. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/175 "2019-12-23T03:42:16Z")
Who cares. Hilmar is still richer than you will ever be. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/176 "2019-12-23T03:43:19Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > In fact a lot of company CEO’s do programming / coding work at the start until their company get’s established. This is very much the case. In the industry we have to bow to large scale producers or stick it out with a small team until you hit it big. There is up’s and downs for both. For example, producers tend to stick their hand in the pot while its cooking messing up the recipe, while on the other side smaller teams mean limited budget which puts financial strain on the individuals undertaking the task, or limits their time which slows content releases, updates etc (which you trade off for freedom to develop the game how you think it should be). To be honest, the best way to go these days is small group and make something from it. As devs we really need to stop feeding the power grip. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/177 "2019-12-23T03:43:36Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Who cares. Hilmar is still richer than you will ever be. You are very, very wrong about that. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/178 "2019-12-23T03:45:01Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > You are very, very wrong about that. No, I’m very very right. You’re a delusional narcissist who can’t name even a single profitable game you have developed, the chances of you making $30-40 million are about as nonexistent as your chances of having sex with anyone but your mom. ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/179 "2019-12-23T04:54:03Z")
mom jokes in 3 - 2 - 1 ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/180 "2019-12-23T04:55:28Z")
![mom 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/f/bf36cc89d0e3728c747279b6d50dbb9c6c362ae8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Michelle\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michelle_vega/32/387037_2.png) [@Michelle\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michelle_Vega)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182/181 "2019-12-24T18:49:38Z")
Basically we decided not to write on these forums anymore, since you noobs and fanboys just keep posting the same garbage as usual. “Why this change” - “tears tears tears” etc. Just stop posting your noobjunk and maybe we will come back. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-community/205182.md?page=10)