# What happened to the last three-four CSM SUMMITS? **URL:** \ **Category:** Jita Park\ **Created:** [August 2, 2026, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717 "2026-08-02T11:47:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/1 "2026-08-02T11:47:02Z")
It seems that due to COVID conditions, the Summit was canceled, this was the 17. The last "Meeting minutes were held via Team, or Zoom, and then a document was redacted. I assume this doc is about the most recent feedback on the state of the game, and how to improve the overalll experience for everybody. But I might be completely on a false track… It could be boring graphs of monthly economics, or just some informative reading of choices that had been already implemented, and wanted a feedback from the CSM members. When Drake said " WE have no AGENDA", I can partially believe him, in that everyone has its own thoughts and what comes out it’s not just one conclusion over the others. All contributes equally. But inside everyone of the CSM elected leaders, there is fundamentally a hidden agenda of some kind. Some might be non-existent even, but out of 13 people, I doubt everyone in the room has not an idea of how he would like the game direction to go. Anyway. What happened to these “last minutes” and the “Lost Summit” of the last four years??? I don’t accuse anyone, if the current state of the game is really bad in some parts, and excellent in others. So I don’t accuse any CSM to have any superpowers to steer the AGENDA (majuscole to distinguish the final, bigger agenda, from those of all individuals)\* towards limit the power of Vet Marauder? players that could steal all the goodies from others with minimal effort… Man is Evil in itself. You tell him not to open the box, and they morning after, the Pandora’s box is not only been opened, it’s gone. Traces erased. So when I asked, who is gonna sell now the new faction bastion modules BPC. AN Eerie silence covered the forum. Should each faction sell it in their shop? Price would drop, interest in the item (ganking for the isks) might go down… We still do not know where to get these BPC’s… Can I suggest the next meeting someone try to bring this thread idea up the billboard as " important decision making " ??? Ty all for the patience and the reading. > [@\[Official\] CSM 17 Summit Recap and Upcoming Election Announcement](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-csm-17-summit-recap-and-upcoming-election-announcement/404438/1): > > The meeting minutes have taken many forms over the years, from the CSM recording their own minutes with final approval by CCP, to direct transcription. Sometimes these documents became incredibly daunting, and we found that players were not consuming the minutes due to their size and style of transcription. During CSM 17’s summit, each meeting was recorded via Teams, and an executive summary was taken to cover the highlights and important details of each meeting. We then sanitized this to remove as few NDA details as possible, and handed them back to the CSM for final comment. We’d love your feedback on if this process afforded easier consumption of the minutes, ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/2 "2026-08-02T12:59:41Z")
Is this Marauder loss complaint thread #6 or did I lose count? Edit: I did a count and it’s #6 if going by opening post topic, #7 if we also count different threads by the OP drifting to the topic of Marauders. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/4 "2026-08-02T14:17:25Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/a/b/0ab6ff7f078cc2fe97f83375a8c67bb67bfd7dad.jpeg "Mr. Trololo original upload") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM) ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/5 "2026-08-02T14:56:01Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/d/34dee6966a17f55ea5996070e03d10100279efaf.jpeg "Kirin J. Callinan's - Screaming cowboy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLeAot4Zrxo&t=1s) ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/6 "2026-08-02T15:15:00Z")
Some of the CSM do publish their documents (usually on Reddit or their various discords), as those are not under NDA, but anything from Fenris will be under NDA and can’t be talked about. You also see in the patch notes if something did come from the CSM or the community at large, last few years, it’s mostly been FW and Pochven changes. ---
**Author:** ![Karash\_Amerius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karash_amerius/32/380787_2.png) [@Karash\_Amerius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karash_Amerius)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/7 "2026-08-02T15:23:08Z")
I think we have crossed the Rubicon of meme creation and living in this moment now. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/8 "2026-08-02T16:01:28Z")
I swear, this is all I hear when I see another one of these threads… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/f/0/4f051dd407ee67691ed26ea1c0af3d9d1b26cf07.jpeg "The Most Annoying Sound In The World") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/9 "2026-08-02T17:25:14Z")
You write a lot of essays! 😵‍💫 ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/10 "2026-08-02T17:42:38Z")
Whats the tl;dr here? Too lazy to even copy paste into chatgpt to give me a summary. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/433985_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/11 "2026-08-02T17:49:55Z")
# Here is a recap of what was said… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/b/3/3b354ce43573b373170dad2632ee9890193d6534.jpeg "maja lutal jai savan ke mahina me #shots #trending 😍🤔👌") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P069OM9bago) Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/12 "2026-08-03T01:59:33Z")
moved to #Council Of Stellar Management > Jita Park ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/13 "2026-08-03T08:53:35Z")
Could you advise where the links are to the CSM summit notes that are sought? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/14 "2026-08-03T15:54:25Z")
In the seed vaults of Iceland. Let the conspiracy theories bloom. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/15 "2026-08-03T18:26:35Z")
Peace, the war is lost. The Palace empty. There is only plague and siphilis running the streets now. Everything that made us human was lost with it. It’s too early for the winner to realize what they accomplished will turn against them. That day is near. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/16 "2026-08-03T20:00:19Z")
You’ll have to either join Goons/Frat/INIT/other null block and see if they have a forum thread for it or a discord thingy, search reddit for any published there, or see if your CSM has a discord where they communicate…it’s very decentralized as CSM members tend to follow their communities that got them elected. Fenris itself has stopped posted minutes as it’s usually just CSM presentations anyways and CSM can have a faster turnaround for their own stuff (Fenris’ presentations would be redated from the minutes anyways). This is part of why I voted for @Mike_Azariah as he has videos talking about what he can talk about at the summit and is easily accessible for us Empire folk. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/18 "2026-08-03T20:08:10Z")
That’s fine, it’s just the easiest way to reach a lot of people though as that is where people **are**. Discord and Reddit. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/20 "2026-08-03T21:46:27Z")
Just a reminder that I plan to run one more time, this fall m ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/22 "2026-08-03T21:53:16Z")
What are you talking about? Who said anything about NATO? ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/23 "2026-08-04T11:09:24Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > I do not Discord. Literally the destroyer of alliances by enabling corp centric snowflake comms. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717/24 "2026-08-04T11:10:13Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > Discord and Reddit. Just because others want to put their finger in the blender should force the rest of us to do so as well. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happened-to-the-last-three-four-csm-summits/515717.md?page=2)