# What happens to the items found after Novemeber the 14th? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 6, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967 "2023-10-06T18:32:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wyndii\_Chelien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wyndii_chelien/32/484758_2.png) [@Wyndii\_Chelien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wyndii_Chelien)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/1 "2023-10-06T18:32:57Z")
Hi I have a query about the Element Control Data found in wormholes, so what happens after November 14 if you get these items will they be obsolete if you don’t turn them in at The fulcrum when the full expansion of Havoc arrives? Or is this on-going game mechanic for the Deathless? I hope CCP can answer my question here. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/2 "2023-10-06T19:22:12Z")
I hope they don’t answer, it’s more fun for it to be a suprise that could bankrupt traders with terrible risk management ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/3 "2023-10-07T11:33:11Z")
> [@Wyndii\_Chelien](#): > > I hope CCP can answer my question here. They aren’t going to tell you to avoid affecting the market potential of the items ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/4 "2023-10-07T13:06:48Z")
They would probably just sit in your inventory tbh. Become a collectors item. ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/5 "2023-10-07T14:36:14Z")
They are affecting it by not telling as well? ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/6 "2023-10-07T14:37:50Z")
> I hope they don’t answer, it’s more fun for it to be a suprise that could bankrupt traders with terrible risk management How are you supposed to do risk management if CCP keeps the cards close? If anything insiders are the ones that are going to profit most then? They usually always profit the most but still. Have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/7 "2023-10-07T14:47:59Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > They are affecting it by not telling as well?. No by not telling us they are letting players take their own risks based on their own assumptions instead of just telling you what is going to happen so you can either horde them or dump them because you know they will either be useful or useless 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/8 "2023-10-07T14:55:23Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > If anything insiders are the ones that are going to profit most then? Well, that would be a breach of ethics on CCP’s part. Would really make me reconsider playing this game if an ethics scandal broke out. aka devs using their tools to make ISK… CSM doing stuff to make ISK. (I know they sign NDAs and stuff) Devs possibly leaking info to players. Just some examples of breach of ethics. I will take the tin foil hat off now. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/9 "2023-10-07T15:02:57Z")
But if CCP doesent say then no-one knows except a very few people how is that good? ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/10 "2023-10-07T16:03:51Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > Would really make me reconsider playing this game if an ethics scandal broke out. Oh you clearly don’t remember the whole T20 incident then or any of the times GM’s have just given themselves things lol ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/11 "2023-10-07T16:05:19Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > But if CCP doesent say then no-one knows except a very few people how is that good?. Because CCP is generally not allowed to use insider knowledge and if they don’t tell anyone then only CCP, the people who have legally binding contracts of employment, will lose out in rather big ways, as has happened in the past anytime someone was found to be abusing their position, not really sure a few billion ISK is worth getting fired over ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-happens-to-the-items-found-after-novemeber-the-14th/422967/12 "2024-01-05T16:05:54Z")
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