# What has happened to this game?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 25, 2021, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226 "2021-07-25T09:55:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/371 "2021-07-26T16:18:15Z")

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You are a salty ganker, you don’t take anyone opposing you seriously.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/372 "2021-07-26T16:18:39Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> you don’t take anyone opposing you seriously.

I don’t. You don’t even log in.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/373 "2021-07-26T16:19:09Z")

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I logged in earlier to transfer 1 ISK to Destiny, so wrong again.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/374 "2021-07-26T16:19:19Z")

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Exactly my point.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/375 "2021-07-26T16:19:35Z")

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I logged in!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/377 "2021-07-26T16:20:29Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I logged in!

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/c/e9c405d02d5088c801024193e9bede4cf52d2eca.jpeg "Guardians of the Galaxy - Nothing Goes Over My Head Scene") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLttd33j-GQ&t=12)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/378 "2021-07-26T16:21:12Z")

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You said I don’t log in, Destiny can prove you wrong as I sent her 1 ISK.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/379 "2021-07-26T16:21:37Z")

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Oh god, does that mean that **I** have to log in? 😕

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/380 "2021-07-26T16:21:57Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> landing on three targets at once

It doesn’t matter Lucas, there is no evidence it ever happened. You have no verifiable gank history at all. You don’t appear to be actively ganking. You just aren’t considered a credible source of information about ganking. Sorry!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/381 "2021-07-26T16:22:44Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Oh god, does that mean that **I** have to log in?

At least I’ve seen you mining in Lonetrek, unlike these other two who just live on the forums.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/382 "2021-07-26T16:23:34Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Well, the work day started so I’m paying less attention now.

LOL!

That’s sure not aging well.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/383 "2021-07-26T16:23:39Z")

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I do have a character logged in a system in Stain to keep an eye on how active it is there, does that count, it is currently an Alpha. It is not Dracvlad though.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/384 "2021-07-26T16:24:02Z")

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Once, I triggered Mr Epeen so hard he forgot to put the sunglass face.

I wish I’d screenshotted it.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/385 "2021-07-26T16:25:45Z")

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Never happened.

Mr Epeen

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/387 "2021-07-26T16:29:18Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> you don’t need direct experience with a mechanic to have an opinion on it anyway

Ah, that’s a good example Lucas. So on the one hand I can talk to actual mechanics who have verifiable work history and up to date certifications, or I can talk to some random with unfounded opinions. Hm.

I wonder who is more likely to have a clue what they are talking about?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/388 "2021-07-26T16:30:20Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> > Well, the work day started so I’m paying less attention now.
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> LOL!
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> That’s sure not aging well.
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> Mr Epeen 🕶

It really isn’t.

I totally feel like I’m being griefed right now. The secret carebear illuminati cabal is conspiring to get me fired from my job. And if that happens, I won’t be able to buy PLEX anymore, so this is basically like ganking my mining barge.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> > Correct. When evaluating whether something is an insult or not, you have to look for an intent to _hurt_ someone in the exchange.
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> Well then yeah, if you are going to claim that people who oppose ganks calling you a liar is an attack but a ganker calling you a pleb and insulting you directly isn’t an attack, then I can see why you think gankers are the good guys. That’s more to do with your bias than anything else though.

No, I mean, if you look at the transactions I have with that person, it’s almost entirely me being cursed out (and sometimes worse), while I attack their claims and lack of consistency.

This feeds into a different discussion about the attitudes of play styles in general. What I’ve been told from non-PvPers as an effect of killing them has generally been in a whole different cardinality from what I’ve been told by other PvPers who either killed me or were killed by me. The _hate_ is easy to spot in the community.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/390 "2021-07-26T16:33:47Z")

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> **[Dramiel | Trigger45 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94131369/)**
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> Trigger45 (RAM corp) lost their Dramiel in Kamio (The Citadel) Total Value: 57,790,470.17 ISK

This guy is a 2005 player. How can you still pretend I am “griefing newbros”?

I don’t think I’m the one with a bias here.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/392 "2021-07-26T16:35:58Z")

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…but that’s not true…

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/393 "2021-07-26T16:36:53Z")

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> **[Astero | Diver ua | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94130169/)**
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> Diver ua (Warriors of Dark Legion) lost their Astero in Irjunen (The Citadel). Final Blow by Whadda Badasaz (New Order Mining Authority) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 89,602,065.57 ISK

This looks like a new player, though for me a new player is anyone with less then a years play.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-has-happened-to-this-game/321226/394 "2021-07-26T16:37:46Z")

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I never said I don’t kill new players, but a lot of these people have been playing longer than me. That’s a verifiable fact.

> **[Retriever | Sakiura Sakura | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94133332/)**
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> Sakiura Sakura (Caldari Provisions) lost their Retriever in Kamio (The Citadel). Final Blow by Whadda Badasaz (New Order Mining Authority) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 52,913,810.56 ISK

This is my most recent kill, and she’s four years older than me.

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