# What i dislike about eve **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 23, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281 "2020-03-23T05:24:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Florisha\_Baldanus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/florisha_baldanus/32/193417_2.png) [@Florisha\_Baldanus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Florisha_Baldanus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/187 "2020-03-25T12:43:26Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Right, so you do realise this will concentrate cap ownership within only the richest alliances because they know they van obliterate any other cap with their wallet, yes? > > And you want it so subcaps cant hurt those caps, yes? No i dont know anything of the sort about ownership, this is just speculations. and the topic it leads to is offtopic. And yes, beeing able to form 100+ lokis is in the same range of thoose “whealty alliances” 5 lokis = 1 dred, as established by your pal jonah. (but im guessing ballpark 2-3 pimped lokis and sp = 1 dred) > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Also why are you avoiding the question I ask each time: Do you have an example of the kind of unit you envisage capitals to be in EvE from any other source? im avoiding your question becouse i dont understand your shitty english. and i dont even want to put aside my time to trying to understand you, as im pretty sure its just another shitty offtopic troll atempt. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/188 "2020-03-25T12:43:57Z")
Yeah battleships only existed viably between 1906 and 1944, 38 years only. ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/189 "2020-03-25T12:45:16Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > wouldnt it be nice AND fair AND balanced, if a capital ships could instablap a loki? No… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/190 "2020-03-25T12:45:42Z")
It is exactly on topic, and the polite thing to do would be to ask for an explanation. But you are clearly not serious about this topic at all if you cannot answer: What do you want caps to be like? Actual description. Not vagueness about killing 50 lokis. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/192 "2020-03-25T12:48:17Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > anyone knows that every rl battleship/dreds/whever have multiple gun systems to deal with multiple enemy attacks. Neither Dreadnoughts nor Battleships have seen active service in many decades, nor were they good at dealing with smaller vessels, their primary role being long range fire support. There’s a reason both classes are obsolete. The closest equivalent today would be a carrier group, with the emphasis on group as Aircraft Carriers never sail alone; not that a carrier group fulfils the function of either a Battleship or a Dreadnought. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/193 "2020-03-25T12:49:21Z")
I shall continue without her approval. No one said they SHOULD be like Real World ships, but without a clear idea what the OP wants, this is just pointless. If they could decide on something, then there would be a discussion here, but there isn’t. The OP wants indestructible megaships that only the Donut can afford or tolerate in existence. The fact that is eludes the OP proves there is no substance here. I move this thread be closed unless the OP actually makes a practical suggestion towards the improvement of capitals. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/194 "2020-03-25T12:50:23Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > anyone knows that every rl battleship/dreds/whever have multiple gun systems to deal with multiple enemy attacks. Anyone who knows naval history knows this is complete fabrication. ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/195 "2020-03-25T12:51:20Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > and is simple shitposting in an attempt to flood this thread, make this thread go away. I would say it is to get you away. ---
**Author:** ![Florisha\_Baldanus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/florisha_baldanus/32/193417_2.png) [@Florisha\_Baldanus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Florisha_Baldanus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/196 "2020-03-25T12:55:39Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > If they could decide on something, then there would be a discussion here, but there isn’t. > The OP wants indestructible megaships that only the Donut can afford or tolerate in existence. > > The fact that is alludes the OP proves there is no substance here. have you even bortherd to read this thread? i have speciefied what could change, i have said what i want, i have outlined the problem many times in diffrent ways and i have even said that i dont want an “op mega ship thats destroy everything” that fact that all this has alluded you proves there is no substance in your post more then pure shitposting and “gasslighting”. > [@Vals\_Loeder](#): > > I would say it is to get you away. so you are agreeing with me.. without relising it yourself.. ok, good i suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/197 "2020-03-25T12:56:36Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > so you are agreeing with me… without relising it yourself… ok, good i suppose. Agree about what? That you’re a despicable troll whining your guts out? Yes, I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Florisha\_Baldanus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/florisha_baldanus/32/193417_2.png) [@Florisha\_Baldanus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Florisha_Baldanus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/198 "2020-03-25T12:58:02Z")
> [@Vals\_Loeder](#): > > Agree about what? That you’re a despicable troll whining your guts out? Yes, I agree. i said that there where trying to flood this thread with shitpost and grief so the thread would get deleted.– and you said “no they want to get you away” and then i said “thats the same thing”. and now you are also griefing calling me names. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/199 "2020-03-25T12:59:35Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > i have speciefied what could change, i have said what i want, i have outlined the problem many times in diffrent ways Then quote the specifications and skill requirments of this ship. You wont, because you havent bothered actually considering what it is that you are asking for other than a ship that can easily plow through every ship under it. If you had, youd have gathered this information together BEFORE you made any demands. You have stated what you DONT want and then thrown it at the forums and said “You nerds figure it out and give it to me”, ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/200 "2020-03-25T13:01:12Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > now you are also griefing ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/6/16152fb5439b87bc1e2d699e70ed945dc148fa72.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/201 "2020-03-25T13:01:25Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > i said that there where trying to flood this thread with shitpost and grief so the thread would get deleted.– > > and you said “no they want to get you away” > > and then i said “thats the same thing”. > > and now you are also griefing calling me names. Yes, you flood this topic with shitposts, every single one of your posts so far has been. And I don’t mean your lack of using capitalization, which makes your posts look like the were written by an imbecile. > [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > and now you are also griefing calling me names. If so, than you’re a pussy? Grow some balls. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/202 "2020-03-25T13:02:38Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > now you are also griefing calling me names You’ve spent a fair bit of time throwing insults at others in this thread… What’s good for the goose is also good for the gander. ---
**Author:** ![Florisha\_Baldanus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/florisha_baldanus/32/193417_2.png) [@Florisha\_Baldanus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Florisha_Baldanus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/203 "2020-03-25T13:02:39Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Then quote the specifications and skill requirments of this ship. i wont spend that much time feeding the trolls so specifie quotes.. but in the gist of it all i have said: “haw dreads can hit a loki - but loki has more range = 0 damage anticap guns have range over lokis, but cant apply to lokis size = 0 damage” “improving the range of haw guns or the tracking of anticap guns is a viable solution” “nerfing loki range is a viable solution” also i have made no demands at all, i have simply stated my feelings, and then people got upset with me calling me a troll etc. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/204 "2020-03-25T13:03:29Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > anticap guns have range over lokis, but cant apply to lokis size = 0 damage” Anti cap guns are meant to be used against other caps, not a small fast moving target; the clue is in the words anti cap. Use the correct tool for the job, or risk having your corpse collected. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/205 "2020-03-25T13:04:09Z")
> [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > also i have made no demands at all, i have simply stated my feelings, and then people got upset with me calling me a troll etc. Well dont swear at people trying to have a discussion and you might get further without getting upset. > [@Florisha\_Baldanus](#): > > but in the gist of it all i have said: > “haw dreads can hit a loki - but loki has more range = 0 damage > anticap guns have range over lokis, but cant apply to lokis size = 0 damage” > > “improving the range of haw guns or the tracking of anticap guns is a viable solution” > “nerfing loki range is a viable solution” Right, so how much? What %? If this is such an important matter to you right now, surely you have an idea by how much these things need improved? ---
**Author:** ![Florisha\_Baldanus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/florisha_baldanus/32/193417_2.png) [@Florisha\_Baldanus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Florisha_Baldanus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/206 "2020-03-25T13:04:50Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You’ve spent a fair bit of time throwing insults at others in this thread… > > What’s good for the goose is also good for the gander. i’ve called 1 person a sociopath, becouse he was trying to push me down using shittalk (and i did call him that becouse he also said that words cant hurt people, it was situational to that, you hafto read yourself) i have called out opeople on ther obvious shitposting / mediocre trolling attempts. calling someone out on obvious stuff is not “throwing insults around”. calling me stuff for expressions my feelings is however “throwing insults” ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-i-dislike-about-eve/227281/207 "2020-03-25T13:05:29Z")
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