# What is a good, Non triglavian, counter to a T3c **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [April 3, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952 "2021-04-03T16:13:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Giddy\_McFee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giddy_mcfee/32/375711_2.png) [@Giddy\_McFee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giddy_McFee)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/1 "2021-04-03T16:13:44Z")
As the subject is really, I recently moved to null and read intel of a lot of solo T3cs around, id like to try and fight them but not sure what with. ---
**Author:** ![Tyerex\_Hopillion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyerex_hopillion/32/249897_2.png) [@Tyerex\_Hopillion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyerex_Hopillion)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/2 "2021-04-03T16:32:15Z")
Another T3c ---
**Author:** ![Giddy\_McFee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giddy_mcfee/32/375711_2.png) [@Giddy\_McFee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giddy_McFee)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/3 "2021-04-03T16:37:01Z")
Is that it? the only counter to a T3c is another T3c? ---
**Author:** ![Tyerex\_Hopillion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyerex_hopillion/32/249897_2.png) [@Tyerex\_Hopillion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyerex_Hopillion)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/4 "2021-04-03T16:39:14Z")
Not the only counter, but the only one I am aware of Edit: battleships and heavy assault cruisers will do the trick ---
**Author:** ![Giddy\_McFee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giddy_mcfee/32/375711_2.png) [@Giddy\_McFee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giddy_McFee)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/5 "2021-04-03T16:47:21Z")
OK, HACs and BS i can fly, so i’ll work on some options, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Spitfire1938](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spitfire1938/32/474648_2.png) [@Spitfire1938](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spitfire1938)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/6 "2021-04-03T17:58:16Z")
I recently learned that a Paladin is a great counter to a Tengu. Just understand that a lot of those T3Cs are not actually solo. ---
**Author:** ![Hink\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hink_yaken/32/247042_2.png) [@Hink\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hink_Yaken)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/7 "2021-04-04T08:19:45Z")
A well fit BS should counter every T3C. You propably need 800dps tank against those HAM Tengus/Lokis. A heavy Neut is also a gamechanger. So a tripple Ancil Raven should work quite well. A double rep Hyperion should also work. Will you be able to hold them down? Will be hard against AB T3Cs. So bringing a friend for more webs and burst is nice to have. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/8 "2021-04-04T11:07:42Z")
The issue with ‘solo’ T3Cs roaming around is that they are often the hunter for their blops fleet. Once they get you, they light a covops cyno and the rest of their fleet jumps through. A bomber for hunting is easily killed, but a CovOps interdiction nullified T3C is great to roam around to find something to drop your fleet on. A good counter is a bait assault cruiser with enough defences and tackle, and most importantly a counter fleet to respond immediately when they take your bait. Ishtars are a common sight ratting in havens, so if you can use one of those people are less likely to expext bait. ---
**Author:** ![Eternal\_Montage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternal_montage/32/425678_2.png) [@Eternal\_Montage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternal_Montage)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/9 "2021-04-04T14:56:01Z")
Heavy neuts, especially the faction ones (and deadspace ones) with crazy range. ---
**Author:** ![Yersynia\_Pestis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yersynia_pestis/32/423214_2.png) [@Yersynia\_Pestis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yersynia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/10 "2021-04-05T08:57:42Z")
Try a [Stratios](https://zkillboard.com/kill/91901927/). Since last T3 -update they are compleetly crap and nerved into the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Hink\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hink_yaken/32/247042_2.png) [@Hink\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hink_Yaken)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/11 "2021-04-05T10:51:03Z")
Buffer Proteus is not a proper T3C and does not count lol. Stratios cant fight Lokis, Tengus or Legions. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pedro_yurgin/32/361653_2.png) [@Pedro\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pedro_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/12 "2021-04-05T15:38:05Z")
2 t3cs > [@Giddy\_McFee](#): > > Is that it? the only counter to a T3c is another T3c? BS, BC, or HACs ---
**Author:** ![Yersynia\_Pestis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yersynia_pestis/32/423214_2.png) [@Yersynia\_Pestis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yersynia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/13 "2021-04-06T13:29:11Z")
On one hand you are right, a buffer-T3C is not a clever choice for an 1v1 engagement. But I didn’t start that fight. I was buisy with a Magnate-Gank as the unlucky Proteus dropt me. On the other hand in a fleetcombat I would always prefer bufferfits, cos I have logi-support. But btt, I just wanted to point out there are many ways to kill a cat. And if the T3-pilot is dump enough you can kill a [Tengu with an Astero](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcYPbjgIs9E) ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/14 "2021-04-06T15:59:45Z")
T3 cruisers are very susceptible to neuting as most of them use an active tank. Fill some of your high slots with neuts and you have a T3c killer. I had a fleet of three neuting Endurances pick a Proteus apart and nibble it to death. ---
**Author:** ![Yersynia\_Pestis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yersynia_pestis/32/423214_2.png) [@Yersynia\_Pestis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yersynia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/15 "2021-04-21T14:34:18Z")
> [@Kaivarian\_Coste](#): > > I had a fleet of three neuting Endurances pick a Proteus apart and nibble it to death. Phew, that’s cruel, I like that 😃 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-a-good-non-triglavian-counter-to-a-t3c/303952/16 "2021-07-20T14:34:44Z")
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