# What is Causing EVE to Die? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 29, 2024, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580 "2024-11-29T07:27:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/429 "2024-12-22T01:57:20Z")
removed a number of posts for the following ### **1.** **Specifically restricted conduct.** The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: - **Trolling** - Flaming - Ranting - **Personal Attacks** - Harassment - Doxxing - Racism & Discrimination - Hate Speech - Sexism - Spamming - Bumping - **Off-Topic Posting** - Pyramid Quoting - Rumor Mongering - New Player Bashing - Impersonation - Advertising ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/430 "2024-12-22T05:32:37Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > I feel EVE needs more skills, but also a story mode, something like Massive effect… I feel that the only purpose of an Eve storyline should be as a backdrop to the larger player driven storyline that should predominate. The real ‘failure cascade’ of Eve is when the player’s own storyline becomes so weak that CCP have to keep propping things up with ever more new ‘content’ that becomes the entire game itself rather than being merely the stage for player driven events. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/431 "2024-12-22T06:08:10Z")
OMFG Bro… (Gloria) i finally agree with something you said totally. Player driven content! Like for example, CCP took away our ability to fight our own wars for power and tried to replace it with factional warfare. Good addition to the game, but never should be the enforced alternative. I want to fight for MYSELF or the MAN i work for, i give no chits about some NPC conflict. Im so proud of you right now lol. (CCP, you need to watch Asmongold videos and save this game) ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/433 "2024-12-22T10:00:58Z")
> [@Thork\_DeLaroche](#): > > Government-subsidized company. A government owns CCP? I didn’t know that governments were in the gaming industry. Which government? And how much of CCP does it own? > [@Thork\_DeLaroche](#): > > Hundreds of players all with alts multiboxing. Multiboxing is using a program to play several characters at the same time, right? If so, isn’t that kind of cheating? > [@Thork\_DeLaroche](#): > > Doomed to fail. How can anyone tell if it is going to fail? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/434 "2024-12-22T10:03:37Z")
> [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > Multiboxing is using a program to play several characters at the same time, right? If so, isn’t that kind of cheating? Does this apply to the forums as well? 😏 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/435 "2024-12-22T10:12:44Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Does this apply to the forums as well? Hi, @Uriel_the_Flame I don’t understand your question. How and why would anyone want to cheat in a forum? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/436 "2024-12-22T10:15:38Z")
> [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > How and why would anyone want to cheat in a forum? The other part: > [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > play several characters at the same time 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/438 "2024-12-22T10:22:08Z")
Frostpacker doesn’t hide, when we decide to mine and undock. When we undock the gwankers dock up and runaway like roaches! Proof! ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/439 "2024-12-22T10:28:50Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > The other part: I’m sorry but that doesn’t make sense, sir. * * * @Thork_DeLaroche Thank you for your reply. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/440 "2024-12-22T10:32:05Z")
> [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > sorry No problem. Some people use alts on the forums if you haven’t noticed yet. 😉 The Frostpackers do it openly and transparently as part of their roleplay while others without admitting it. > [@"Winning Eve" What does that mean to you?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/winning-eve-what-does-that-mean-to-you/471852/13): > > That definition seems to apply to quite some people on these forums, including a constant flow of new ones that write, behave and have the exact personality of ones that left the forums in the past for various reasons. winkblush ---
**Author:** ![Thork\_DeLaroche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thork_delaroche/32/446812_2.png) [@Thork\_DeLaroche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thork_DeLaroche)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/441 "2024-12-22T10:32:52Z")
. > [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > Thank you for your reply. You’re very welcome, and if you have more questions don’t hesitate to contact me in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/442 "2024-12-22T10:39:08Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Some people use alts on the forums if you haven’t noticed yet But what for?? That is strange behavior. If it is for trolling then some people need to get a job or volunteer to help people with that free time. Otherwise, it is very sad. Thank you for clarifying. > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > The Frostpackers do it openly and transparently as part of their roleplay while others without admitting it Sneaky. Some people have too much time on their hands. I don’t know the Frostpackers but at leat if he does it openly then that is honest. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/443 "2024-12-22T10:42:37Z")
> [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > Otherwise, it is very sad. Agreed some people are odd like that. I only use one character to post on the forums since I play EVE, this one. 😊 > [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > Frostpackers but at leat if he does it openly then that is honest. The Frostpacker is a different case in my opinion (and odd for different reasons 😈) as each of his characters is a different persona for his roleplay. And yes agree with what you wrote, he is open about it so he is honest. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/444 "2024-12-22T10:43:10Z")
Elon Musk is claiming he has an iq of 155 This is what is killing Eve Online ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/445 "2024-12-22T10:43:48Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > This is what is killing Eve Online And the occasional `wordsalad`s. 😏 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/446 "2024-12-22T10:45:08Z")
I forgive you based on the amount of alcohol I had to consume to be social ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/447 "2024-12-22T10:53:17Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > some people are odd I have met many odd people so I am not shocked. I think the time they waste being odd could be better used elsewhere. > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > each of his characters is a different persona for his roleplay I understand roleplay very well. And it seems that he brings levity to the forum which is always welcomed. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/448 "2024-12-22T11:09:14Z")
> [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > I have met many odd people so I am not shocked. I think the time they waste being odd could be better used elsewhere Agreed. Some people seem consumed by their own mindset or some other oddity, some of those by their hatred, the latter of which is extremely odd to see during the holiday season. 🤔 The sad part is such haters suffer from their own mindset. However they can only blame themselves for that. It is only they themselves who can change their own ways if they want to feel better and live a healthier life. Hopefully they can accomplish just that and maybe get help as well if they are willing to accept it. > [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > And it seems that he brings levity to the forum which is always welcomed. Yes most cases, for the exceptions when he is actually rude to women and other such objectively bad behavior. 👀 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/449 "2024-12-22T11:27:28Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Some people seem consumed by their own mindset or some other oddity, some of those by their hatred, the latter of which is extremely odd to see during the holiday season I agree but I could not tell what these people are pushed to be odd by, there are so many different personalities and cultures out there. Some of them also like to dominate and be violent while doing so. Those I tend to be very careful with or literally avoid, and the fact that there is a holiday doesn’t seem to phase them. > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Yes most cases, for the exceptions when he is actually rude to women and other such objectively bad behavior I don’t think I have met a man who hasn’t been rude to a woman at one point or another. I think that masculinity facilitates some verbally brute behavior, just in the amount of cursing or spewing some inappropriate idea. I cannot fault it though. We women can be just as vicious if not more. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/450 "2024-12-22T11:28:23Z")
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