# What is Causing EVE to Die? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 29, 2024, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580 "2024-11-29T07:27:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/451 "2024-12-22T11:38:29Z")
Hi, @Chad_Frostpacker > [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > You may have met many pilots willing to lose a barge because it’s easy to replace rather than call for support on the forum Actually I haven’t met one pilot yet. I am still reading about the game and doing the career agents. I do not have a lot of time to dedicate to a game. I chose EVE Online because it’s a sci-fi MMO and the kind of play will allow me to be online when I want to so I can manage my time more easily. Today is Sunday and I still have things to do for the coming week. > [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Had you questioned your core values? I rarely visit that question. I know what I want and am determined to advantage myself over some ideal I will never live up to. > [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Do you feel that you could support change or are you happy with the current New Eden? Change for the greater good is nice but I would have to understand the current situation before I could support any kind of change. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/452 "2024-12-22T11:51:24Z")
Leave overlook any pilot who decided to purchase a mining permit . There souls are now lost! ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/453 "2024-12-22T11:57:34Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Leave overlook any pilot who decided to purchase a mining permit . > > There souls are now lost! Ah yes, the permits. Another strange kind of roleplay from that gankers corporation. The subject was brought up in corporation chat. Interesting to say the least. I will give it some thought. I don’t discriminate based on anything, least of all their preferred gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/454 "2024-12-22T12:11:45Z")
I am thinking we both could mindmeld! ResultingIs billions of isk ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/455 "2024-12-22T12:13:42Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > mindmeld @Tiffany_Tatum just for your information… > [@Why antigank?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-antigank/407469/1660): > > Frostpacker wordsalad mind melds with unsuspecting capsuleer be like: [[Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country (6/8) Movie CLIP - A Painful Mind Meld (1991) HD] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1NgX-w54RY) No amount of ISK is worth such torture. eyes thinking wink 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/456 "2024-12-22T12:22:21Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > I am thinking we both could mindmeld! > ResultingIs billions of isk The idea is intriguing. If you don’t mind contacting me in the game, we could talk it over and see if both our interests could be benefited. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/457 "2024-12-22T12:23:53Z")
> [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > our interests could be benefited Don’t forget about `walletmeld` as well. 😏 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/458 "2024-12-22T12:24:11Z")
@Uriel_the_Flame I saw that film. She did something wrong so she had the mindmeld coming to her. Spock did right. ---
**Author:** ![Yarda\_Black](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yarda_black/32/373282_2.png) [@Yarda\_Black](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yarda_Black)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/459 "2024-12-22T12:24:17Z")
**IMO:** Too many people that can’t build castles in the sand ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/460 "2024-12-22T12:59:16Z")
> [@Distaine](#): > > OMFG Bro… (Gloria) i finally agree with something you said totally. Player driven content! I’ve long stated I had _zero_ interest in PvE and might just as well log off and play Homeworld. I want any ‘storyline’ to be little more than a backdrop. Where we may differ is that I get more contentious than that… In fact I have zero interest in ‘grind’ as well. Why would I want to grind when I have real life wealth that can substitute for that grind time ? Of course, that always brings out the ‘its not fair !’ people who object that the game should not be decided by rl wealth and they start talking about ‘red lines’. BUT…disparities in rl wealth are equally reflected in disparities in available grind time. Why is it any **more** fair that one person might have half an hour a day to grind while another has 10 hours ? Why is time wealth disparity fair but money wealth disparity isn’t ? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/461 "2024-12-22T13:09:10Z")
It is definitely not the wordsalad. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/462 "2024-12-23T00:47:15Z")
> [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > But what for?? Incurring consequences in game. For example, so and so says something that pisses off party A. Party A brings about a war on so and so’s corp… Can also happen on the market. It can also being about issues with joining corps So people create forum alts because they are afraid of the consequences of spewing their nonsensical dibble and the repercussions it may bring them in game. Essentially they are cowards. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/463 "2024-12-23T16:12:59Z")
Could RMT also be causing Eve Online to continue to slide like a person being dragged down into the pit of the lame by those who don’t like sci-fi? Societal stereotypes of people playing games such as Eve Online could also be double tapping the sink. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/492 "2024-12-23T22:39:55Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > must pay 1 billion isk Per alt. 😉 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/501 "2024-12-24T07:56:13Z")
Hello, @Kaely_Tanniss > [@Kaely\_Tanniss](#): > > So it is because they fear recourse… > > @Tiffany_Tatum > There’s your answer Thank you for your suggestion, Kaely. But I think there is something deeper to it, something that we’re not seeing, something we might not want to see or be able to. I don’t think it is fear and I don’t think that everyone who uses forum alts are clinically insane. Something is not right with this picture and I feel it will take more than a cursory surface search to find the cause of it and It may be the key to unlock the cause and the reason why EVE is dying. ---
**Author:** ![Tiffany\_Tatum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiffany_tatum/32/444722_2.png) [@Tiffany\_Tatum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiffany_Tatum)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/502 "2024-12-24T08:07:53Z")
Hi, @Gloria_Exercitus > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Gosh…well if people shoot at me for being annoying on the forums I might get a few more kills. I apologize but I do not understand the character of your reply to me. What you quoted has nothing to do with your reply. Can you help me make sense of your decision to quote that particular snippet of my exchange with Ax’l? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/503 "2024-12-24T09:27:52Z")
> [@Tiffany\_Tatum](#): > > I don’t know who is the “him” you are referring to. The Frostpacker entity. 😊 > [@Miners & Gankers - Birds of a Feather?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/miners-gankers-birds-of-a-feather/471674/34): > > I’m gonna block you now. Goodbye. > [@Miners & Gankers - Birds of a Feather?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/miners-gankers-birds-of-a-feather/471674/35): > > Iceacid Frostpacker, Felix Frostpacker, Chad Frostpacker, Jimmy Frostpacker. thinkingeyes ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/504 "2024-12-24T10:05:01Z")
The push comes to shove, nobody wants to pony up! ---
**Author:** ![Zomdi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zomdi/32/443958_2.png) [@Zomdi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zomdi)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/505 "2024-12-24T10:56:29Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Kai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_kai/32/402812_2.png) [@ISD\_Kai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Kai)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/506 "2024-12-24T11:00:17Z")
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