# What is Causing EVE to Die? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 29, 2024, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580 "2024-11-29T07:27:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Angewoman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angewoman/32/425566_2.png) [@Angewoman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angewoman)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/659 "2025-01-09T15:11:19Z")
> [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > resent new players being allowed the freedom and ability to develop their skills and knowledge to match that of the veteran playerbase. developing skills and knowledge only works if they actually LEARN and not just try to fit a ship after swiping a card, for the blingiest fit possible… ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/660 "2025-01-09T15:16:08Z")
> [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > with some culpability around 9 months prior 9 months ? Zaera did not have much patience so tiny Zaera popped out after 8 months. Apparently the nurses couldnt help commenting on how cute she was and what a good pair of **lungs** she had. > [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > The fact I was unable to even set up This is what friends are for. Playing SOLO in a multiplayer game is foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/661 "2025-01-09T15:46:33Z")
> [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > and that if CCP did make things easier for players to exist and play in a way that suited them with no risk until they consented to it, you would adapt. Nope…I’ve stated before and I’ll state it again. At the merest hint of _any_ area of space being made ‘safe’, I’ll be off for good. I’d be far from the only one doing so. Any hint of ‘consensual PvP’ and I’ll also be off. People who want a 100% safe environment should go play Farmville instead. > [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > I can’t help but feel though, that your _3 year_ wait time for revenge may once again be expecting a little much of the average new player Nah…revenge is a dish best served very cold. And the real point is, wanting to ‘get even’ was the very thing that motivated me. Three years later I’d largely forgotten the incident, and it was only that the corp name seemed familiar that made me check. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/662 "2025-01-09T15:55:32Z")
That’s not true. You’re warned that structures can be destroyed when you build one. You could have heeded that and simply decided to never construct one in the first place. Eve doesn’t have to build around your life. > [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > If EVE wants to thrive, it has to find a place in peoples’ lives, not the other way around. Eve has thrived exactly by not building itself around your life nor anyone else’s. It’s still here. It’s a 22 year old game and older than WoW. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/663 "2025-01-09T16:25:09Z")
Another issue are the ‘your ideas are terrible’ types of comments from players who never have an idea but ridicule people for having ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Angewoman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angewoman/32/425566_2.png) [@Angewoman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angewoman)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/664 "2025-01-09T16:34:18Z")
Aww are you sad that ppl say your ideas are terrible? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/665 "2025-01-09T16:36:08Z")
> [@Angewoman](#): > > that ppl say your terrible ideas are terrible? FTFY 😉 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/666 "2025-01-09T18:31:28Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Another issue are the ‘your ideas are terrible’ types of comments from players who never have an idea but ridicule people for having ideas. You need a licence to have ideas. I can sell you one for 1bn ISK. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/667 "2025-01-09T18:42:50Z")
So how much to post an idea? And is there an additional fee for bad ideas? LOL Also if I have to read an idea. I want 1.5 billion Isk Daddy needs new shoes. Forget the 1.5 billion Isk to read an idea. It is now 2 billion Isk per letter. ![download](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/1/b/51bf4f9f84c1c924c8f8cc9321389f87882face9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/668 "2025-01-09T20:21:45Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > wanting to ‘get even’ was the very thing that motivated me Feels good , doesn’t it? > [@Glenduil](#): > > Eve doesn’t have to build around your life. You speak sense sometimes, this does impress Zaera > [@DrysonBennington](#): > > who never have an idea but ridicule people for having ideas You do speak some nonsense ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/669 "2025-01-09T20:27:17Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > 1bn ISK Those words will give nightmares to the Frostpacker. 🤔 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/670 "2025-01-09T20:28:01Z")
It is the language he understands, or pretends not to The Frostpacker though isn’t doing too well these days as resorted to stealing the clown’s ORE, inorder to feed his wives, 100 kids and Zaera. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/671 "2025-01-09T20:45:32Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > 100 kids That makes total sense considering… > [@ESI Scopes that let others read your entire mail box](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/esi-scopes-that-let-others-read-your-entire-mail-box/420908/18): > > For what I recall, the pleasure palace was private. > [@Incredible \[Brave\] \[Imperium\] :: Top 10 PvP Corp looking for selected recruits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incredible-brave-imperium-top-10-pvp-corp-looking-for-selected-recruits/444479/9): > > Well our Princess had never asked for any silly ESI all frosty did was show his Princess his RL Bank Account the night he had the privilege to stay inside the Pleasure Palace! ESI means nothing! > [@Returning Player Suprise](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-suprise/473431/23): > > They are currently being held inside the dungeon of Princess Aiko,S pleasure Palace A place that had once kicked Frosty out because he enjoyed the torture. > [@How to make your first billion isk…](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-your-first-billion-isk/427688/24): > > I am fine with whatever is disclosed as I once showed the Princess my bank account the night I stayed over in her pleasure palace. 🤔 😏 🍿 > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > stealing the clown’s ORE, inorder to feed his wives, 100 kids and Zaera. > **[Cooking With Veldspar | EVE Ref](https://everef.net/types/34420)** > > A family friendly holoreel compilation filled with the finest culinary tips New Eden has to offer. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/672 "2025-01-09T21:53:05Z")
What is causing Eve to die. Lack of CCP’s ability to identify and fix problems. Lack of decent PvP for solo and small gangs. Wealth generation for newer players and businesses is not good enough. (farming is not running a business unless you have employee doing the job for competitive pay) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/673 "2025-01-10T01:17:39Z")
Hi Uriel what’s happening? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/674 "2025-01-10T03:57:12Z")
I miss the days, long before the mining barges and exhumers, when the Armageddon was the apex mining ship… ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/675 "2025-01-10T04:07:30Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/0/0/20080b70970e8a008d618b07ed286a0c1bd6069b.jpeg "NOBODY TOLD ME. (Ultimate Mix, 2020) - John Lennon (official music video HD)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuuhsqA95iA) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/676 "2025-01-10T08:18:53Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Hi Uriel what’s happening? Hey, nothing just a bit of talk about food and cooking in New Eden. 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/677 "2025-01-10T10:33:53Z")
Did you know that you are one year and one day older than Frosty? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580/678 "2025-01-10T11:09:36Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Did you know Now I do. 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-causing-eve-to-die/469580.md?page=27)