# What is considered the best faction dreadnought in pvp and pve? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 26, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237 "2021-10-26T15:54:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nemer\_Kahn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nemer_kahn/32/294092_2.png) [@Nemer\_Kahn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nemer_Kahn)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/1 "2021-10-26T15:54:10Z")
I’ve google this question but found very little information. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/2 "2021-10-26T16:10:00Z")
That’s probably because no reasonable person would use one for pve and for the most part the only reason to use one in pvp is to flex. ---
**Author:** ![Quentin\_Schaefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quentin_schaefer/32/471507_2.png) [@Quentin\_Schaefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quentin_Schaefer)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/3 "2021-10-26T16:46:57Z")
Chemosh. Vehement suffers from the same thing that the Moros does in that it has a weak tank, so it’d be primaried, Caiman can do any dmg type and has one fighter tube, but the Chemosh’s armor tank just looks more appealing. But if you just wanna flex, go with the Vehement because the Serpentis Victory skin on it looks sweet. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/4 "2021-10-26T21:36:42Z")
Lol… this guy. If you have any dread and you take it out for either PVE or PVP right now… _clap clap clap clap…_ Might as well dust off the 'ol AT ships and take them out for a spin. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/5 "2021-10-26T22:41:51Z")
> [@Quentin\_Schaefer](#): > > in that it has a weak tank, so it’d be primaried Wouldn’t they all be primaried if seen on grid? I don’t think tank is a good deterrent to avoid being shot in a faction dread. ---
**Author:** ![Quentin\_Schaefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quentin_schaefer/32/471507_2.png) [@Quentin\_Schaefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quentin_Schaefer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/6 "2021-10-27T01:27:09Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Wouldn’t they all be primaried if seen on grid? well, sure, but I’m just answering the OP’s question 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/7 "2021-10-27T02:16:03Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > If you have any dread and you take it out for either PVE or PVP right now… _clap clap clap clap…_ \*laughs in C5 Naglfar\* ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/8 "2021-10-27T06:26:17Z")
when you’re dock workers and feed two faction titans lol ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/9 "2021-10-27T06:31:40Z")
> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > when you’re dock workers and feed two faction titans lol Fair enough, a good deterrent to shooting the faction dread is to put a faction titan next to it. 😛 (Did they also have faction dreads on grid in that fight? I only remember seeing the two titan kills.) ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/10 "2021-10-27T12:59:49Z")
> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > That’s probably because no reasonable person would use one for pve and for the most part the only reason to use one in pvp is to flex. I hear they can be used quite well in WHs. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/11 "2021-10-27T14:50:33Z")
Where no reasonable person lives. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/12 "2021-10-27T22:10:19Z")
They are used thousands of times a day in c5/6 wormholes. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/13 "2021-10-27T22:10:56Z")
The best eve has is in jspace, both content and people wise. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/14 "2021-10-27T22:20:38Z")
Used to be, but it went to the shitter right around the citadel expansion. ---
**Author:** ![Palydin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/palydin/32/277469_2.png) [@Palydin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Palydin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/15 "2021-10-27T22:40:21Z")
The best faction dread is the Zirnitra. It has 1546 kills on zkill as of my writing, edging out the Vehement with 1453 despite having been introduced into the game much more recently. The Chemosh and Caiman are far behind with 249 and 237 kills respectively. ---
**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/16 "2021-10-27T22:50:30Z")
Damn, am I that unreasonable? ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/17 "2021-10-28T00:20:29Z")
Unbelievably, honestly I’m not sure how we even put up with you. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-considered-the-best-faction-dreadnought-in-pvp-and-pve/334237/18 "2022-01-26T00:20:42Z")
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