# What is EVE Online's main product?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 17, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793 "2019-03-17T17:15:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/105 "2019-03-17T23:36:51Z")

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> [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](#):
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> I don’t want to be involved with the franchise at a business level, in other words.

2 posts later…

> [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](#):
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> If CCP wants to have alphas as a part of the game, changes need to be made. If you want alphas to sub, changes definitely need to be made, to level the playing field, not entirely, but somewhat. Yes, you should have a bit more advantage, but what you have, now, is far too much.

![escalated](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/5/85f0e180fe682dfd97dc06a3b7492a5dfb8450f1.gif)

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**Author:** ![Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nobuyuki_tanaka/32/125208_2.png) [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nobuyuki_Tanaka)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/106 "2019-03-17T23:40:16Z")

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@Maekchu

I don’t get it. Or, maybe I do. You’re misconstruing what I say? Is it intentional?

I don’t want to be involved with the in-game ‘franchise,’ being a manufacturer, researcher, miner, etc, etc.

As far as saying what I want the game to be, in real life, as in me, the person who might one day pay, again? Sure, I want to be heard, but I still don’t want to be involved.

This is a game. It’s supposed to be fun. Actually, so should this be. This is, bar none, the most hostile, vindictive, and toxic forum of any game I’ve ever played. That says something.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/107 "2019-03-17T23:41:07Z")

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Poor thing.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/108 "2019-03-17T23:45:12Z")

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Look how I predicted the future!

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> You will further try bullshitting us about all those masses of victims who, like you, can’t handle it. You will further try creating imaginary arguments where you have none and you will further try making claims you can’t back up.
> 
> You’re literally nothing but a number.  
> Hundreds of your kind have come and gone.  
> Hundreds!
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> You can and will keep talking endlessly about it, you will blame us for being mean/elitistic/whatever, you will keep demanding and you will continuously fail to see where the actual problem is.
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> The problem is that you’re a loser.  
> Stop being a loser.

Man, I should play lottery.  
Oh wait, I don’t need to. 😊

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/109 "2019-03-17T23:45:34Z")

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So… You demand the game to change, yet you don’t want to get involved with the game? Did I get that right?

Honestly, not sure what you find toxic in regards to my replies. It’s mostly light humoring and memes. If you find that to be _“the most hostile, vindictive, and toxic”_ you’ve ever experienced, then I’m not really sure what to say.

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**Author:** ![Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nobuyuki_tanaka/32/125208_2.png) [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nobuyuki_Tanaka)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/110 "2019-03-17T23:46:32Z")

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Not all ‘vets’ are vain. Some fight for the little guys. I see only a few of you, routinely having anything to say.

The silent majority?

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/111 "2019-03-17T23:47:44Z")

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> [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](#):
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> This is, bar none, the most hostile, vindictive, and toxic forum of any game I’ve ever played.

Yet more evidence you’re not actually an older EVE player.

\*\*OMG BATTLESTAR GALACTICA  
FOXBOLT CONFIRMED?!?!?!

More News at 11.

I apologize.  
This is funny, but we’re piling up on you.  
That’s not okay. I’ll step back. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/112 "2019-03-17T23:48:01Z")

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Daddy issues spotted.

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**Author:** ![Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nobuyuki_tanaka/32/125208_2.png) [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nobuyuki_Tanaka)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/113 "2019-03-17T23:48:38Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Yet more evidence you’re not actually an older EVE player.

Whatever you say. Pretend I’m totally new.

Does that alter anything I’ve said?

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/114 "2019-03-17T23:49:45Z")

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> [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](#):
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> Does that alter anything I’ve said?

Yeah, like, how you said you’re an old player.  
It makes you a liar.

Anyhow, too many people talking to you at once.  
That’s no good.

Take care!

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**Author:** ![Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nobuyuki_tanaka/32/125208_2.png) [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nobuyuki_Tanaka)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/115 "2019-03-17T23:50:03Z")

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Want star trek, instead, solstice?

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> This is funny, but we’re piling up on you.

What is funny, is that you’re not.

It’s just a handful of you, out of the tens of thousands that play, supposedly vets. Just a few of you. Piling?

Nah. You’re just worried.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/116 "2019-03-17T23:52:28Z")

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> [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](#):
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> Nah. You’re just worried.

Yes. I’m worried, because the more people start responding to you at the same time, the more stress it causes without you even realizing. Of course you will not understand this, you also will not see it as a thing. You also have absolutely no clue how this works, so you will just deny that it is an actual thing and just claim that I’m talking out of my ass, or however you’re going to word it.

I’m not like you, though. I don’t make ■■■■ up and I pretty much always know what I’m talking about, or ask, or accept when I’m being corrected.

Oh and I’m honest, too. 😊

Two people talking to you is enough. If you think that means I’m afraid of a powerless loser, then … hey, whatever makes you feel good.

Take care. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/117 "2019-03-17T23:52:52Z")

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> [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](#):
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> You’re just worried.

Please tell us what worries us so much.

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**Author:** ![Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nobuyuki_tanaka/32/125208_2.png) [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nobuyuki_Tanaka)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/118 "2019-03-17T23:55:13Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> Please tell us what worries us so much.

Pretty obvious. Where is your support?

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/a/3/7a3daff59b8a0e17804ef3119362ac7ca811c23b.jpeg "Battlestar Galactica decommissioning speech.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFXHD2feNys)

I could use star trek, but hey, I chose a theme. Where is your support? Why is it just you few? You coaster nothings?

No real pvp vets are challenging a word I’ve said.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/119 "2019-03-17T23:55:57Z")

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What support ? Links? Logi ? WTF are you talking about

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**Author:** ![Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nobuyuki_tanaka/32/125208_2.png) [@Nobuyuki\_Tanaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nobuyuki_Tanaka)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/120 "2019-03-17T23:57:44Z")

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Exactly? Where is it? I see two of you whining. Like I said, a real pvp vet is not going to give two damned $hits if an alpha has L5 up to cruiser, and all skills, and no cap. Because, real life experience. He’s not gonna care if you bought the skill points, either, for the same reason.

You, and only you, coaster vets, are gonna care.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/121 "2019-03-17T23:59:39Z")

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More nonsense. Good Luck and good night.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/122 "2019-03-18T00:12:55Z")

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It is always easy to speak for the mythical silent majority, they won’t say anything about it.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/123 "2019-03-18T00:48:16Z")

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-eve-onlines-main-product/146793/124 "2019-03-18T00:48:31Z")

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