# What is HAPPENING TO EVE?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 1, 2022, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071 "2022-06-01T08:48:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/334 "2022-07-30T19:35:39Z")

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Mining barges have adventures, NPC attacking attacking, drones being deployed the satisfaction of getting the load to the dock, all an adventure.

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**Author:** ![Armani\_Kenzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armani_kenzo/32/329395_2.png) [@Armani\_Kenzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armani_Kenzo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/335 "2022-07-30T20:13:44Z")

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I once had a great adventure in my mining barge, I got tackled by asteroids in a mining belt and couldn’t warp for 15 minutes

Really exciting stuff

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/336 "2022-07-30T20:23:10Z")

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Those drunk sessions are the best. 😉

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/337 "2022-07-30T21:52:58Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> Mining barges have adventures

Paint drying has adventures too! The paint sitting there, slowly drying. Doing all the fascinating things that paint does when it drys. Hours and hours of gripping, edge of your seat, adventures!

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/338 "2022-07-30T22:02:48Z")

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My most exciting experience, was in a procurer.

I used it steal a bunch of ore a mining fleet was placing into a jet can before transferring it to their miasmos.

They didn’t like that very much.

But what they like even less, was about 30 minutes later I suicide ganked the miasmos and a corp mate bagged that ore.

Fun times.

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**Author:** ![Boags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boags/32/382554_2.png) [@Boags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boags)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/339 "2022-08-26T14:45:06Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> yeah, absolutely. I’ve posted before the idea that one of the tutorial/career agent missions should straight-up be sending the player to kill another player (the system would basically send two players to the same zone with the same task). Win or lose, there would be good rewards for that mission regardless of the outcome.

Thats a great idea!

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**Author:** ![yamamoto\_suhara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yamamoto_suhara/32/303244_2.png) [@yamamoto\_suhara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yamamoto_suhara)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/340 "2022-08-26T20:34:56Z")

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t1 industry changes was the last nail in the coffin…affected my play style a lot…npc nullsec carebear here living in stainganistan…with the minerals colected from belt ratting i was building my own carriers and dreds or faction bs/cruiser with bpc collected from ded sites…  
On theyr minds, ccp tought im gona create a tones of alts to run spreadshit PI or spent my 2 h /day mining on a ■■■■ citadel…hell no…my chars run out in 2 3 months and im not intending to plex them anymore.

Game was great when a lot of ppl was out in space doing something(exploration ded site anom or belt ratting),hunting or beeing hunted…now ppl get stuck for hours on mining some ■■■■ athanors or abysal runing at jita undock and u whonder why game is boring

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/341 "2022-08-26T21:53:46Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> I griefed most of EVE’s players out of the game, sorry.

Actually that was Aiko. She hit them so hard with her ganks, she knocked them clean out of the game.

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**Author:** ![Videles\_Silenthunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/videles_silenthunter/32/474024_2.png) [@Videles\_Silenthunter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Videles_Silenthunter)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/342 "2022-08-26T22:00:08Z")

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This brought content and progression. Now its death empty

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**Author:** ![Kahna\_Sung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kahna_sung/32/332492_2.png) [@Kahna\_Sung](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kahna_Sung)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/343 "2022-08-26T23:17:42Z")

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> [@Peter\_Raptor](#):
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> To quote the Venerable and Fearless Obi Wan Kenobi

I prefer Yoda. He’s funny and most powerful.  
To quote him: " A good game EVE is. "

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/344 "2022-08-27T04:28:51Z")

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Can I have your stuff?

Pass on your legacy to someone who can use it!

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**Author:** ![Induce\_Deadline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/induce_deadline/32/418955_2.png) [@Induce\_Deadline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Induce_Deadline)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/345 "2022-08-27T05:36:08Z")

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They’re about to drop a big update in the form of FW which, if done properly, will help boost pvp activity.

There’s a lot of mental gymnastics in this thread around pvp vs pve mindset. Personally I think it’s more nuanced than that, I think people are not one or the other, they’re both, possibly outside of high sec which, being your starter area, isn’t really pvp centric and also harbours incredibly safe pvp (high sec war deccing) which isn’t really true competitive pvp - sorry lads!

What I hear most as a null vet is people are getting tired at the amount of pve needed to sustain pvp. Where once people could whelp HACs, T3Cs, Nightmares, Machs at a reasonable rate and sustain cap and supercap escalations perhaps 2-3 times a year, the ability to fund that lifestyle isn’t really there anymore.

For me CCP need to:

- Make high sec the starter area. Protect the newbros.
- Incentivise heavy pvp in low / null.
- Improve pve rewards and remove some rewards from instanced content which doesn’t open people up to pvp e.g. abyssals.

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**Author:** ![Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shower_ben_dover/32/329433_2.png) [@Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shower_Ben_Dover)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/346 "2022-08-27T06:01:20Z")

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I am more interested in the end of year Nov/Dec second Trig invasion wave where all 4 highsec empires will be permanently cut off from each other with zero highsec routes between them.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/347 "2022-08-27T06:03:21Z")

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> [@Induce\_Deadline](#):
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> Make high sec the starter area. Protect the newbros.

You mean protect the null-sec career farmers and bot operators transporting their double-digit-billion-ISK loads for sale to the plebs in Jita?

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/348 "2022-08-27T07:39:27Z")

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Several weeks ago I had seen a fleet fleeting close to Caldari stargate.

It could be a good time of packing up and leaving Jita

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Also thinking outside the donut when I mention that when looking at that new style map that was shared around, how else would something like that be introduced into New Eden lore wise without cutting pipe around the centre and what better way of making the 2nd Trigturd wave carry out the task of pusing highsec out of the centre and for the Factions to form new pipes around the outer edge,

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/349 "2022-08-27T12:54:31Z")

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> [@Induce\_Deadline](#):
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> Make high sec the starter area. Protect the newbros.

Then they need to decrease the number of high sec systems and increase the number of low sec system’s

Or they need to incentivize not noob players to get out of high sec so it exclusively for new players

Perhaps a skill cap. Characters with \>4.5 mil skill points are barred from entering high sec.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/350 "2022-08-27T13:30:43Z")

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> [@Induce\_Deadline](#):
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> - Make high sec the starter area. Protect the newbros.

I agree you, making anything outside the starter systems & career agent locations 0.4 or below system security status.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/351 "2022-08-27T14:04:24Z")

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EXACTLY! That is exactly what EVE needs and what will bring thousands of new players into the game.

> [@Induce\_Deadline](#):
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> high sec war deccing) which isn’t really true competitive pvp - sorry lads

Damn so that is not real pvp either.

I am afraid, that we already ruled all pvp except nullsec wars out of the real pvp list…

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**Author:** ![FoxIT\_Up](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foxit_up/32/387428_2.png) [@FoxIT\_Up](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FoxIT_Up)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/353 "2022-08-28T21:42:35Z")

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It’s getting terribly quiet around New Eden…

1200 in Local in Jita last Friday at primetime EU - I remember the days we had to bloody QUEUE at the gate to get in…

This concentration on Jita is one of the BIG reasons things are failing IMHO…

I really DO NOT see how Jita can get so much love, in a game based SO MUCH on Lore that the other 3 regions are neglected.

And WHEN is W-Space gonna get some love ?

It’s NO FUN AT ALL playing for 3 hours and NOT having a single person enter your Wormhole Chain, YET - we get the worst deal possible on Structure destruction… Risk vs Reward ??? We have it all on the line for almost ZERO reward…

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**Author:** ![Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shower_ben_dover/32/329433_2.png) [@Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shower_Ben_Dover)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/354 "2022-08-28T22:20:09Z")

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Currently losing 10million per month operating with zero profit while working on other “future hits”

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