# What is HAPPENING TO EVE?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 1, 2022, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071 "2022-06-01T08:48:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/355 "2022-08-28T22:51:01Z")

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> [@FoxIT\_Up](#):
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> in a game based SO MUCH on Lore

What game is that?

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**Author:** ![Tau\_Cabalander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tau_cabalander/32/373930_2.png) [@Tau\_Cabalander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tau_Cabalander)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/356 "2022-08-28T23:17:31Z")

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> [@Adorno\_Ado](#):
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> So eve china added a fresh server, new galaxy and no more highsec ganking

The people that find enjoyment in mundane gameplay are far easier (less expensive) to keep around as customers. All you have to do is stop poking them with sharp sticks.

Adrenline junkies are always harder (more expensive) to attract and retain, especially with so many other games available.

Ultima Online is still around after 25 years, and you can bet it isn’t the same two people repeatedly PK-ing each other. However, their world is indeed dead, with their “Jita” looking like a ghost town. I’m amazed they still manage to pay the electricity for the servers.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/357 "2022-08-29T00:04:57Z")

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Apparently UO is still being maintained and even added to:

> **[Ultima Online is still receiving updates as it celebrates its 25th anniversary](https://www.pcgamer.com/ultima-online-is-still-receiving-updates-as-it-celebrates-its-25th-anniversary/)**
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> Veteran rewards and Valentine's Day roses are coming to the classic MMO.

I don’t have the link handy but somewhere on the forums I linked an interview with the UO team where they said it’s basically 6 people doing it all now. So that helps manage the expenses.

Makes you wonder what CCP has accomplished over the past 10 years with their 300 devs and $60 million budget.

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**Author:** ![Aether\_Empress](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aether_empress/32/332916_2.png) [@Aether\_Empress](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aether_Empress)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/358 "2022-08-29T00:15:23Z")

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Can everyone stop saying that ‘‘eve is dying’’ and simply realise that the whole globe is gaming a little less?

Eve is doing just great. The devs still want INFINITE EVE FOREVER so it’s fine. And buying a ship with real money just results in it getting suicide ganked anyway.

…which btw is HILARIOUS…

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/359 "2022-08-29T02:42:31Z")

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I agree. Stop giving the “doom n’ gloomers”any Creedence, and have been predicting EvE’s eminent demise for 18 years straight.

And even if they are correct this year, I’ll walk away with fond memories to smile back on. Good friends and stories of space-capades.

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**Author:** ![JAMES7347](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james7347/32/512009_2.png) [@JAMES7347](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JAMES7347)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/360 "2022-08-29T08:40:48Z")

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It is a bit quiet though.

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**Author:** ![JAMES7347](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james7347/32/512009_2.png) [@JAMES7347](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JAMES7347)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/361 "2022-08-29T08:41:27Z")

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Cheerfully quiet?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/362 "2022-08-29T13:00:02Z")

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> [@Aether\_Empress](#):
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> the whole globe is gaming a little less

WTH is that based on?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/363 "2022-08-29T22:02:05Z")

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Most people played during Incarna, then disappointment, there was another spike 2 years after it, and again disappointment…  
If Incarna would be a success, if CCP would put money where their mouth is, then we would see probably double the numbers and even today we would see double numbers. There would be no Star Citizen, no Elite Dangerous, No nothing, only EVE.

Hilmar, put money where your mouth is. You said you want EVE to last forever.

That separate FPS, its trash. There was only one DUST, and it will not be made better because you dont have as much money as before, to make 2 games at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/364 "2022-08-29T22:09:56Z")

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World of Warcraft population faced a hard drop this year, what if its not just an EVE situation?

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/5/a/e5a1440200a26b4185fdec8f9480f20eff996c2e.jpeg "World of Warcraft Hit Rock Bottom. | Asmongold Reacts to Bellular") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJjUuelsCf0)

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/365 "2022-08-29T22:38:31Z")

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It’s not, and never was. The MMO industry is getting absolutely demolished.

But this won’t stop all of these bleeding-heart whiners from saying that EVE is dying because all the new players are getting ganked out of the game or whatever.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Golem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_golem/32/376192_2.png) [@ISD\_Golem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Golem)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/366 "2022-08-29T22:40:33Z")

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Removed a couple inappropriate posts

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/367 "2022-08-30T00:39:49Z")

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today back home i logged just because …

got a lot of money from a kind soul out of nowhere  
felt so good  
EVE is in fact great  
yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy  
thank you man  
i love you ❤

edit:  
the donation came with this cute message

![Captura de Tela 2022-08-30 às 02.32.04](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/d/3/8d3f65b34979428e5cb40efa9555c3103b2f97d1.png)

you made this possible TY AGAIN

 ![Captura de Tela 2022-08-30 às 02.37.42](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/e/f2e82191fc992f2405c3d50136f866672c7a51e5.png)

more to come … i hope 😃

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/368 "2022-08-30T04:57:24Z")

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1.25-1.29 minute would be a good idea to show in EveOnline for example.

Generate a Pie chart one for each main activity in Highsec (Sorry can’t speak for nul or low)

Ganking vs Non Ganking. (Done both but still don’t hold the grasp of why even bother doing those at all and I still don’t have a clue) ← I am stuck in that bucket still. Let’s move on.

Time it takes to obtain a Catalyst, fit it, train a pilot to undock it… scout, gank, send evemail rp… etc etc.

Then make a new piechart with other activities such as antiganking that would be simular in waiting attacking/stopping such Catalyst. The time on each part can be looked at closely and analysed, compared.

What’s happening in Eve? A time sink is what is happening and it is that time we use to find enjoyment that makes the time not feel so dull such as reading through this comment I made. Sorry not sorry.

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**Author:** ![Fehyd\_Rautha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fehyd_rautha/32/333040_2.png) [@Fehyd\_Rautha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fehyd_Rautha)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/369 "2022-08-30T09:19:38Z")

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Plex getting expensive bro, I know I slimmed down and let expire a few accounts. I guess I’m far from the only one in this situation.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/370 "2022-08-30T10:18:09Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> I griefed most of EVE’s players out of the game, sorry.

I haven’t yet had the pleasure !

Come to Bleak Lands sometime, and we’ll extrapolate on the true meaning of GRIEF delivery.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/371 "2022-08-30T10:19:40Z")

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> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#):
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> World of Warcraft population faced a hard drop this year, what if its not just an EVE situation?

MMOs in general are in decline yes

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/372 "2022-08-30T10:27:00Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> Apparently UO is still being maintained and even added to:

UO was, and still remains great to this day.

It gives the itch to play again many times.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/373 "2022-08-30T11:37:47Z")

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FF XIV and OSRS are both flourishing. Wonder why that is.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-is-happening-to-eve/365071/374 "2022-08-30T11:47:47Z")

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In FF’s case Ill tell ya

Viera and lots of hats.

Sadly not at the same time ☹

Thanks Yoshi P

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